flr169 0 #1 April 30, 2004 Hello all..... I need a bit of advice.....I live in Northwestern Ontario.......no DZ's in canada that are close... Manitoba is like 8 hrs and Toronto area is like 14 hrs...... Manitoba DZ's don't offer AFF but the Toronto area DZ's do...... Now state side there is one in Superior, WI 3 hrs away and the next one is by the Twin Cities about 6 hrs away...... I wanna take the AFF course this summer and get my License......... either in Canada or the US , it doesn't really matter to me....... the closer the better...easier to get more jumps in... If you could offer up some advice / suggestions that would be appreciated........ MikeLife's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting - "fcuk me what a ride!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #2 April 30, 2004 Hi there. Me again. First of all, if you get a license from the CSPA or USPA, in both cases that license will be respected from around the world, and you'll be able to show up at a DZ with either and jump without hassle. From that perspective, it really doesn't matter which you get. USPA licenses are respected in Canada, and CSPA licenses are respected in the states. However, there's an issue, and that's insurance. With membership in both the CSPA and USPA, one of the benefits of membership is called "3rd party liability insurance". This insurance covers damage that you may do while landing off the DZ. If you damage crops while landing, or a fence while walking back, this insurance covers you. As a Canadian resident, USPA insurance will not cover you while jumping in Canada. It will cover an American visiting Canada, but it won't cover a Canadian resident jumping in Canada. Likewise, CSPA won't cover an American resident jumping in the states... So, you'll need to have CSPA membership, so that you'll have CSPA insurance while jumping in Canada. When I started jumping, I was living in Toronto and would drive weekly down to a DZ in upstate New York, because they had a big plane. I was trained there jumped there mostly. When I later went to Skydive Toronto, they made me buy a CSPA membership so that I'd have insurance while jumping in Canada. From what I've seen: Instruction is very good in both countries, but some DZ's are better then others. Both CSPA and USPA are well respected internationally. Personally, the choice that I made was that I choose the DZ that I jumped at predominantly, and got ratings in that countries organization. (uspa). I maintained a membership in CSPA just for the insurance. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d604 0 #3 May 2, 2004 What Andyman said about the quality and insurance issues are correct. But if you got the USPA CoP (Certificate of Proficiency, aka license) and if you had a long-term goal of becoming an instructor, coach, etc. rating in Canada you would then have to get CSPA CoPs to meet the prerequisites. The same would apply if you had CSPA CoPs and wanted to instruct at a USPA DZ. Although, it’s just of matter of going through hoops, your jumps count but you would have to write the tests and you might need to meet some other prereqs. You have to look at where you will be doing your jumping. Since your closest DZ in Canada is 8 hours away but only 3 hours to a US DZ, I would go south.CSPA ratings C1, C2, IA, IB, QE, RA, and EJR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flr169 0 #4 May 3, 2004 thanks d604 It's looking more & more like the state side would be the best place for me.............to start my jump career............. thanks, MikeLife's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting - "fcuk me what a ride!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudOnMyTongue 0 #5 May 3, 2004 I wouldn't just use proximity to judge where you'll start to skydive. I do not jump at the dz that is nearest my home. And if you ask around a lot of other people are the same way. The dz that you end up choosing will be your second home. Try to pick a place that you want to be spending all your free time at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flr169 0 #6 May 3, 2004 thanks cloudonmytongue...... Will keep that in mind when deciding which DZ to go too............... MikeLife's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting - "fcuk me what a ride!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #7 May 4, 2004 USPA covers Canadian jumpers jumping in Canada as long as the skydive is made within USPA basic safety requirements and Transport Canada regulations. There are quite a few dropzones in Canada that are USPA group members and not CSPA. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
