How much do you trust your cypres?

[neilly 0]

everyone says the cypres is foolproof, they register all the lives saved etc..

BUT how many times has the cypres FAILED...

then again who has lived to tell the tale?

Fly like an aardvark

[pilotdave 0]

I'd definitely do it for $100 mil. I'd do it for $10 mil. I'd think about it for $1 mil but probably would say no.

It's all about how much you value life. There are plenty of people in the world that wouldnt jump out of a plane under any circumstances for $100 million. We understand the risk involved and choose to take it. And we do it over and over and over. Would I do 100 jumps in a row with only the cypres to save me for $100,000,000? Probably not. But one? Sure. It's a gamble, but the chances are definitely on my side. If I lose, I lose everything. But that's no different from every other time I jump out of a plane expecting a lot of things to go right.

I'd bet a lot of the people saying they wouldn't jump have families of their own. One guy I work with says he'd love to try skydiving, but just wouldn't risk it because he has kids.

I'm not suicidal or anything, but I have nobody else relying on me to be alive and well, so I'm willing to take calculated risks.

Dave

[CanuckInUSA 0]

I hope I never need to be in the situation to see if my cypres will save my ass. I know it came close to doing me in instead of saving me not long ago. But it's debatable as to whether or not it was my cypres which almost did me in, or was it just myself who almost did myself in (most people including myself will blame yours truly). I still jump with a cypres, but I now understand why some people won't.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[TaeKwonDoDo 0]

Hmmmm.... Money is involved, and lots of it.

If my wife got to keep the money regarless of the outcome - I'd seriously think about it.

I'm still covered for a significant amount (Life, AD&D) anyway but not $100M (but enough for me to think about keeping my chure hidden from the wife ).

Who comes up with the $100M? Is this funded by a tax on the rich? Can we raise taxes on Cigs and Alcohol, or just Beer only so the SD community can "voluntary" contribute... Or do we hold a lottery/raffle and when the pool is large enough the winner gets to jump?

Let's figure out where the money comes first, then I might solidify my answer .

- Jeff

"That's not flying, it's falling with style."

[Amazon 7]

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I see many of the "CYPRES Generation" say they would...

I WAY predate the Cypress Generation.. When I was jumping in the 70's and 80's.... I NEVER had any kind of Sentinel in my own rig. I did jump a guys rig a couple times that had one... and it worried me...Then again I was a little crazy then... would jump just about anything...

But the Cypress now???
Hell Yeah for that kind of Ca Chinggggggg... I guess I am just a greedy little ole lady with a not so big 401k.

Amazon

[cloud9 0]

for those of you who said you would, consider this. I recently sent my cypres in for it's four year and it failed and had to be sent back to Germany for repairs. I wouldn't have even know it failed if I hadn't called. It was taking to long to get back so I called.
They said it probably would have worked because it failed the extreme test, high and low temps. Something to think about though.

[mcrocker 0]

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Ummm...would probably say yes on that..would want the spot to be good though..dont think you'll have much time to setup for landing!

Nah, When you set your Cypress tell it your landing area is 1000' higher than where you are setting it from. The Reserve will pop at 1750 feet instead of 750'. Just make sure you set it higher not lower or you'll make an ugly hole.

For 100 Million I would do it. I trust my equipment, if I didn't I wouldn't be jumping it.

[tattoojeff 0]

hell yeah id jump. do you know how many jump tickets i can buy with a million bucks.
and if i dont make it ill join the big dz in the sky. with roger organizing loads free packers and big white fluffy's everyday.
am i on a call yet?

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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Nah, When you set your Cypress tell it your landing area is 1000' higher than where you are setting it from. The Reserve will pop at 1750 feet instead of 750'. Just make sure you set it higher not lower or you'll make an ugly hole.

A similar scenario has happened to me on at least two occasions. My home DZ in CO is about 5000 feet MSL and not long ago I was jumping in Calhan CO (at about 6400 feet MSL) and then came back to Mile-Hi for the sunset load and forgot that my cypres was turned on earlier in the day. Fortunately I remembered this in the airplane before I jumped and had one of my friends turn the unit off. Then a couple of weeks ago I did a similar thing jumping in Brush CO (4000 feet MSL) and came back to Mile-Hi for the sunset load. But this time I remembered and turned the unit off before turning it back on (having it recalibrate itself) before I got on the airplane. I know some people claim that the cypres is smart enough to notice these altitude changes while riding in my car, but I honestly don't really want to be a guinea pig testing these theories.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[curtismelaniej 0]

I'd be scared shitless, but I'd probably do it for 100 million.

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[andy2 0]

hell yeah I would. Sorry for adding a little immaturity to the forum but that would be a fucking rush (not to mention the 100 million). I'd make sure I was stable come time when I got to the basement though!

edit - I don't jump with a cypres though so we better get one installed before I take you up on that deal!!

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[flyingferret 0]

Hell yeah, I would. I know a certain videographer that did without meaning to, did not make a cent, and is still a very cool cat to fly with.

Has Airtec ever been sued? just curious, I have not heard of it. I think electronics like the cypres are pretty reliable. Would I bet on it? for a $100 mil, yeah! I would for probably a mil. However I would request a short drop and higher altitude just to limit damages to myself. And a packjob from Todd. I think there is way more chance in a bad pack than a bad cypres. And if you still disagree....

Well everyone is calculating the odds, calculate the odds for any skydive, nothing guarantees your life as soon as you leave the plane. AND...we pay to take that risk. There was a time when the equipment was the dangerous part of this sport. I think that time is mostly gone.

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[BigM 2]

The real enlightenment would be to poll the people at Airtec and ask each one of them how much money it would take to get them to jump their product in this manner. Now THAT would tell the tale!

"When I die, I want to go like my grandmother, who died peacefully in her sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in her car."

[flyingferret 0]

There are a number of factors here, like what reserve and who packed it. I just think every jump is a risk, and any jump that paid $100 Mil would be worth considering. I am sure that the Airtec guys believe in their product, if for no other reason than our litigatious society.

Now if it ran an O/S, no, and no again. My theory is if you trust it enough to pay $1000 for it and it not malfunction and kill you, you might as well.

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[flyangel2 2]

Gotta go with nightjumps on this one. I turn my cypress on at the start of a jump day and forget it's there. For me, it's a back up.

May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

[slotperfect 7]

I would never do that . . .

I have air bags in one of my cars, and I trust them to work. I don't depend on them to save me, however. Nor do I choose to test them by driving my car into a wall to see if they work and prove my confidence in them.

edit: BTW - I am not motivated by the money at all

Arrive Safely

John

[Vertifly 0]

The way I see it, I do this every day that it is sunny out and I am jumping.

Reverse the question and say, "Would you jump out of the plane for 100 Million without a reserve - only a main?" Uhm, I would argue that most people who have been in the sport for a while would do this. Carefully addressed, the odds are in your favor to survive.

Sucking it low on one jump (not necessarily a terrible experience), let the cypress fire to save my life, and $100 million... Heck, want to do me any more favors?

Skydivers jumping rounds only 25 years ago would do hop and pops from 2k and pull regularly at 800 feet. Ask McGowan.

[lazerq3 0]

HELL Yeah I'd take that bet!!!! but see in how I dont jump with an AAD I'd probably lose!!

jason

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[crwmike 0]

I don't think I fall into the 'cypres generation' category.

For 100 mil? Sign me up!!!!

Michael

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No fucking way.

Its a cool toy but thats just stupid.

I see many of the "CYPRES Generation" say they would...

Well I don't find that surprizing at all to be honest.

[wmw999 2,560]

I'm old too, and I'd seriously consider it for $100 million. The reserve opening is a lot less scary to me than the possibility of the Cypres misfiring -- that's the part I'd think about long and hard, and I'm probably glad I don't get to make the decision.

It's easy to say "I"d never do that" or "sure I would" when it's not a decision you're going to make.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Samurai136 0]

For 100 Million Dollars I'd take that risk. Only if I packed the reserve and assembled the cypres. I'd want a Racer for the jump.

Got $100 million?

Ken

P.S. this question sound more like how much reward$$ would it take for you to try something dumb as opposed to "trust in technology".

"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian
Ken

[hookitt 1]

I'm kindof a psycho f***er... for that amount of cash? Hell yeah.

I get to Pack it.

My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[skydive84 0]

100mill - please somebody make me this offer!
I think my lower limit would be about $800. Or maybe just a flight to LAX. I might change my reserve for a PD-R first though.
Adi

[BETO74 0]

I don't trust my cypress to let it do my job, but I trust it enought to pay 11 hundred just in case.

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[BBKid 0]

Not a bloody chance!

I'm happy with the idea of bailing out and pulling the reserve at 1000', but you're out of your tree if you think I'd just arch and wait for something to happen. Now a higher altitude, with a sharp knife and a quick opening main - that's another matter!

Nick
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