packerboy 3 #1 November 26, 2004 Santa can't skydive Why, in this case, could Santa not just exit higher than 3G? If the concern for large venue demos for the FAA is low flying planes, why not take the plane higher? I understand that it adds yet another element of risk, but high altitude smoke jumps are part of demos already are they not? -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #2 November 26, 2004 i agree, that's bullshit. a smoke jump from 7500' gives you approximately 10 seconds of smoke on the strut, 25 - 30 seconds of smoke in freefall and 20 - 25 seconds of smoke under canopy. the smoke cannisters are typically burnt out by the time you land preventing anyone on the ground with breathing problems from inhaling the smoke. perhaps the jumpers that organize that demo should be a little more open minded to their possibilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #3 November 26, 2004 And with four more years of Shrubya and company, things like his are going to get worse, much worse.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #4 November 27, 2004 It's my understanding that you can jump into large events, regardless of the 3000' rule, if you can get your local FSDO to approve the waver you can do the demo. For some time after 9/11 all the deom wavers I filed had a line in it stating that we would not fly lower than 3000 feet above the open air assembly. There's no law against it, maybe something that Disney worked out, they do have just a bit of political clout! Disney is a company town in FL, they have their own police force, etc. Whoever's running the FSDO just needs to get a pair and approve the waver!Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #5 November 27, 2004 my pic says santa can too skydive. this photo is from our website by an excellent skydiver called Francis Jackson, his web site www.daretobereal.com .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crutch 0 #6 November 27, 2004 Yes, there are airspace restrictions over the Disney theme parks. Having been involved in trying to do some demos into Disney World this past summer. It is Disney, not the FAA involved in keeping these jumps fromm happening. Our FSDO was willing to work with us, but the Disney officials didn't want to "compromise" the airspace restrictions as I was told.blue skies, art Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 November 27, 2004 It's a long tortuous story. Before 9/11 aerial advertisers used to regularly fly over the parks. Made sense. Huge captive audience and good bang for the buck. Disney -always- hated this and tried for -decades- to get some sort of restrictions placed on the airspace without any luck. For a short time after 9/11, just about anything was possible in the name of "security" and one of the things they pushed through was a no fly zone around the parks. As a side note, if -Disney- wants a demo, it's a done deal. In fact, Disney can put together an impressive demo including the Golden Knights in just a couple of days (>48 hours!) if they want. I know because I helps co-ordinate one a couple years ago when I was still working for them. Tightest demo I've ever witnessed with my own eyes too.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites