Snowflake 0 #1 January 18, 2005 Why are ash dives illegal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigM 2 #2 January 18, 2005 Who says they are??? "When I die, I want to go like my grandmother, who died peacefully in her sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in her car." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 January 18, 2005 Never heard that before.....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #4 January 18, 2005 When I did my dads I was told it was illegal and to not bring it up to much. This was in California it might be different in other states or mis information. The person who told me this was the DZ manager at the time. PS I think it's like jay walking illegal if you know what I mean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #5 January 18, 2005 Ah, you were in California. That explains it. The California Air Resource Board probably would have gone nuts if they heard you were distributing particulate matter into their air. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #6 January 18, 2005 I presume ash dives are illeagal because most states regulate the manner in which personal remains may be disposed of, and speading ashes over populated areas I'm sure would be disapproved of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #7 January 18, 2005 QuoteWhy are ash dives illegal? It is not illegal to spread ashes in the air. There are companys in CA that you can hire to do this from an airplane. What makes most ash dives maybe a little, you know a touch over the line is the permit. You have to have a permit and do it in certain areas. Like someone already said, you don't want to do it over a housing development. I was on one at Perris about a month ago, it was pouring rain and no one said anything to us about a permit. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itllclear 1 #8 January 18, 2005 If you really want to know -- from the California Department of Consumer Affairs Websire: As long as a family member is involved -- go for it. Harry ++++++++ In California, you may choose any of the following methods of disposition of cremated remains: Placement in a columbarium or mausoleum - There may be additional charges for endowment care, opening or closing, recording, flower vase, and nameplate Burial in a plot in a cemetery - There may be additional charges for endowment care, opening or closing, recording, outer burial container, flower vase, and marker Retention at a residence - The funeral establishment or crematory will have you sign the Permit for Disposition showing that the remains were released to you and will file it with the local registrar of births and deaths. You may not remove the cremated remains from the container and you must arrange for their disposition upon your death Storing in a house of worship or religious shrine if local zoning laws allow Scattering in areas of the state where no local prohibition exists and with written permission of the property owner or governing agency. The cremated remains must be removed from the container and scattered in a manner so they are not distinguishable to the public Scattering in a cemetery scattering garden; or Scattering at sea, at least 500 yards from shore (this also includes inland navigable waters, except for lakes and streams) Cremated remains may not be transported without a permit from the county health department and they may not be disposed of in refuse. Scattering Cremated remains may be scattered as described above by a licensed cemetery, cemetery broker, crematory, registered cremated remains disposer, funeral establishment staff member, or the family. All cremated remains must be removed from the container for scattering. Avoid inhalation of the dust from the cremated remains, since there may be health risks."Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #9 January 18, 2005 QuoteI presume ash dives are illeagal because most states regulate the manner in which personal remains may be disposed of, and speading ashes over populated areas I'm sure would be disapproved of. Makes you think twice about leaving the lid off your BBQ grill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #10 January 19, 2005 We've actually given this topic some thought since we're not getting any younger. I figure as long as I can die in bed my wife can put me in the new freezer and no one will be the wiser. R.I.P.? Sorrry he can't come to thephone he's running a errand I'll have hime Email you when he gets back R.I.P. Only in calif would they try and require a permit for ash dives Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #11 January 19, 2005 QuoteI figure as long as I can die in bed my wife can put me in the new freezer and no one will be the wiser. And you could still submit absentee ballots! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #12 January 19, 2005 QuoteAvoid inhalation of the dust from the cremated remains, since there may be health risks. Oh No, did you see Rich's face when he landed? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #13 January 19, 2005 QuoteQuoteI presume ash dives are illeagal because most states regulate the manner in which personal remains may be disposed of, and speading ashes over populated areas I'm sure would be disapproved of. Makes you think twice about leaving the lid off your BBQ grill. That reminds me a an episode of "Married, with Children"."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 January 19, 2005 QuoteI presume ash dives are illeagal because most states regulate the manner in which personal remains may be disposed of, and speading ashes over populated areas I'm sure would be disapproved of. Aye - I think a good number of people would be freaked out if they knew they were breathing in bits of people, even if the health consequences would seem to be insignificant. I have myself an underwater ledge in Carmel in mind, should it come to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBob 0 #15 January 20, 2005 QuoteI figure as long as I can die in bed my wife can put me in the new freezer Then later, if they can get you to the DZ and up to altitude before you thaw you could do a popsicle dive. A frozen lawn dart!"I'm not a gynecologist but I will take a look at it" RB #1295, Smokey Sister #1, HellFish #658, Dirty Sanchez #194, Muff Brothers #3834, POPS #9614, Orfun Foster-Parent?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Praetorian 1 #16 January 20, 2005 ***Avoid inhalation of the dust from the cremated remains, since there may be health risks.[/quote What health risks???? I mean as long as you don't huff the deceased, I don't see how you could accidentaly inhale enough ash to do measureable damage. Any one who claims biohazard status for ash really needs more time with a basic biology text Good Judgment comes from experience...a lot of experience comes from bad judgment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #17 January 20, 2005 I have participated in at least ten ash dives. No one ever gave us any grief about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Snowflake 0 #18 January 21, 2005 Now that I think on it a little more I think he told me not to mention it to the funeral people.......Like I said I think it's jaywalking type illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Praetorian 1 #16 January 20, 2005 ***Avoid inhalation of the dust from the cremated remains, since there may be health risks.[/quote What health risks???? I mean as long as you don't huff the deceased, I don't see how you could accidentaly inhale enough ash to do measureable damage. Any one who claims biohazard status for ash really needs more time with a basic biology text Good Judgment comes from experience...a lot of experience comes from bad judgment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #17 January 20, 2005 I have participated in at least ten ash dives. No one ever gave us any grief about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #18 January 21, 2005 Now that I think on it a little more I think he told me not to mention it to the funeral people.......Like I said I think it's jaywalking type illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites