Groundbound 0 #1 March 5, 2005 http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parachutefalls.html What is the consensus of this type of landing - well there are several. These are boring? typical? kind of radical? unsafe? Thanks, just trying to get a feel for the action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #2 March 5, 2005 most of what i saw was some experienced pilots flying there canopies. there was a little left to be desired but all in all it looks like peeps who where experienced. those types of landings are VERY DANGEROUS unless you have the experience to handle them. 1000-2000 plus jumps... stick around for a few years, you will get there if you dont rush it! ohh yaa!!!! clicky!!! http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parachutefalls.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #3 March 5, 2005 >What is the consensus of this type of landing . . . Consensus? They are very experienced jumpers landing heavily loaded canopies after a low turn - i.e. your typical high performance landing. At a place like Perris, you see about a hundred of them a day when it's busy. About 10 times a year someone there breaks themselves up pretty good doing one; there is almost no margin for error. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #4 March 5, 2005 Quote At a place like Perris, you see about a hundred of them a day when it's busy. About 10 times a year someone there breaks themselves up pretty good doing one; there is almost no margin for error. and what would you estimate the ratio of good landing to bad landings is just based on observation at perris? ballpark? makes me wonder even more if some people are taking the 'one bad apple spoils the bunch" approach to regulation... although i like your latest BSR proposal, i cant see how some people justify their claims of 'the sky is falling under perfectly good canopies' based on a handful of spectacularly bloody failures while ignoring the MUCH higher number of successful jumps and jumpers...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #5 March 5, 2005 Good question zen. . .but I think when we have experienced canopy pilots going in while performing these types of maneuvers, its definitely time to take a look at what's going on.________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #6 March 5, 2005 >and what would you estimate the ratio of good landing to bad > landings is just based on observation at perris? ballpark? Probably 10 good landings to every 1 bad landing. (Bad in this case meaning out of control, unstable, flaring too high etc.) If you compare the number of non-injury landings to injury landings it's more like 2000 to 1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #7 March 6, 2005 Quote>and what would you estimate the ratio of good landing to bad > landings is just based on observation at perris? ballpark? I have one landing at Perris - and it sucked... So for me it is 1 : 1… I hit some nasty air 10’ off the ground (just before flare) and was slammed into the ground in a turn/dive/collapse of the canopy. The winds were parallel to the runway, and I landed into the wind right across from manifest/pool in the dirt area. I am kindof nervous because I am scheduled for a camp there next week and know that I am gonna be doing at least 25 skydives – and I really want to not get slammed again. Anyone got landing suggestions specific to this DZ? Did I have bad luck or did I discover the known gremlins that occupy this DZ? If you don't want to join me in taking this thread quasi-off-topic, send a PM. T. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites