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Should i plan on repeating AFF jumps?

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I just did my first AFF jump yesterday and i didn't realize that there are so many things to acomlpish for your jumpmasters to send you to the next step. Is there any way i can do anything on the ground to help me realy prepare because money is an issue and i can't afford to repeat very many levels.

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Dude, don't worry so much about it. It seems like a lot now cuz in your first jump you just sit there. But you will find that you have enough time.
Also, it doesn't have to be perfect. On my level 5 my turns were pretty lame and I still passed. With each level you are just building on what you did on the previous one. You have to completely screw the pooch to fail a level. (I failed lvl 4 cuz I couldn't get stable on the release and then I forgot to pull. :o) And even if you fail, its not a total waste. Its just another skydive! :)
I know thats easier said than done. I totally beat myself up when I failed level 4. But looking back it was fine and I went back up and did it right so its all good. Try not to stress about each level. :)
As far as practice, U pretty much need a wind tunnel to practice FF stuff. The biggest thing is just trying to stay relaxed, that will solve so many stability issues in freefall, trust me! ;)

Good luck with your training! :)
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Is there any way i can do anything on the ground to help me realy prepare



Yup. Ask your instructors to go over the next category dive flow with you prior to leaving the DZ. go over it a multitude of times before going back out.
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Yup. Ask your instructors to go over the next category dive flow with you prior to leaving the DZ. go over it a multitude of times before going back out.



That's exactly what I did and it really helped. From day one I had the dive flow for every level, so I spent a good bit of time going over them, before I even went to the DZ.

Don't plan on repeating...have confidence in yourself, you'll do great ;)

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[Reply]I just did my first AFF jump yesterday and I didn't realize that there are so many things to accomplish for your jumpmasters to send you to the next step. Is there any way I can do anything on the ground to help me realy prepare because money is an issue and I can't afford to repeat very many levels.



I hate to sound like a pessimist, but expect to repeat. How many depends on you as an individual. I recently completed AFF so I will offer my meager opinion.

1st) If at all possible find a primary instructor that will take you through your entire AFF course. I was fortunate to have bodypilot1 (Ed Pawlowski)as my instructor from start to finish. By having one instructor, he/she knows your strengths and weakness and can you help you correct them as they arise. Ed and I also dirt dived the dive flow several times at the mock up before boarding the plane. I had to be able to tell him the dive flow from start to finish without prompting.

2nd) Try and get the AFFI's to video your jumps. I found this as a very valuable tool after each jump. Ed debriefed me after each jump and explained to me how to correct my weaknesses.

3rd) Save up a little extra cash if you can before you start or be willing to finance your jumps on a credit card if need be. I don't know if you have exit anxiety, but I know I did. It helped me to be going out the door two or three times a day over a three week time frame. This allowed me to be comfortable exiting and all the things I was being taught were fresh in my mind. I personally had to repeat two skydives, but I am glad I did.

4th) As said before relax and have fun!!!

Here is a little post I made as I reflected back on my journey, sorry I don’t know how to make a clicky http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1508251;search_string=brief;#1508251


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This is what has worked for me, I just graduated AFF

Learn how to relax, when you jump count to four and take a deep breath, that will get you ready for your skydive.


That is what someone told me and it really helped. At AFF4, I didn't use that advice and when it was time to pull I got myself all worked up because no one was holding on to me. I did pull, but I started myself spinning before I pulled.

The next jumps I made sure that I took that deep breath before I started the jump and when I was at pull altitude, deep breath and pull.

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I just did my first AFF jump yesterday and i didn't realize that there are so many things to acomlpish for your jumpmasters to send you to the next step. Is there any way i can do anything on the ground to help me realy prepare because money is an issue and i can't afford to repeat very many levels.



Not letting too much time pass between jumps is the best insurance you can get. If due to your schedule or the horrible weather we had in Jan/Feb you end up going 3 weeks, you have more door stress distracting you from the task at hand.

I don't know if you've talked with Raff yet, but he stresses the idea of visualizing a good jump. Go in confident in your plan and execute it.

You might still have to repeat along the way, but don't be too hard on yourself for it. Stay positive!

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Just my 2 cents but if you get video all through your Aff you may save money. I know i wouldn't of done so well on my aff years ago if i didn't have the video. You learn so much after your dive wayching over and over. Some videographers may give you a package deal on all your jumps. Just ask around but it will help you on the long run.
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I just did level 4,everything is going fine thus far exception of me still being stiff.
I do not forsee or expect to do any repeats. Confidence (but not over confidence) is a big part of it (at least for me).
Try to do them as close to each other as possible, that is definately helpfull (Eventhough I have to wait about 2 weeks btw a couple of jumps :( - due to weather and lack of time:()
I'm going again this weekend and can't wait:)Have fun and don't stress -- Easier said than done;):)
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If you're just dying to kill some time on the ground, you could make sure you've memorized the signals your instructors are using if you haven't already done so. If you're into visualization, you can even imagine yourself in the air responding to the signs you're given. Arch, bend legs, circle of awareness, etc. If you can react to what your instructor is telling you while you're up there, you shouldn't worry about repeating anything.


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i've seen people fly through before and i'm totally jealous.
there still are those who repeat and spend a lot of time in the tunnel (umm... that would be me!)... this stuff is so addicting, so expensive, and so much harder than it looks (i've had repeats... but learn from each one)
you might want to check this out:
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=898126;page=1;mh=-1;;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC
have fun!
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Basically, your mileage can and will vary. Some people take to any new skill like a duck to water, some people are naturals at just some things (skydiving, for example) and other people learn only by making mistakes a few times until they get it right.

Whoever said not to plan on repeating was right, though. In my (limited) experience of AFF, the instructors gave me all the information I needed for each stage, and drummed it into my head so much that I couldn't forget it even though sensory overload meant I did my best to :P

If you really worry about the cost of stage repeats (and AFF jumps are indeed pricey, compared to afterwards), then use that as a motivator to absorb every skerrick of information that your instructors give you. Fill your mind with it. Dirt dive over and over again and don't worry about looking like a noob. You look like a noob anyway without that closing pin necklace ;). If you don't give yourself the option to repeat, maybe it'll be a little less likely that you will.

Having said all that... bring enough money to repeat some stages. That way, when you fly through AFF with no worries, you have jump tickets to burn at the end.

And you'll want those.
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The fact is that MANY people have to re-take a level(s). My problem was learn to relax and getting a good stable body position. On level 3 (the let go) I first had bad lower body position. Failed. Then I did it again and had bad upper body because I was focused so much on my legs. failed. Then the 3rd time I put it all together and passed with flying colors. Then I was so happy I completely screwed the dive flow on the next level. Body my arch was beautiful!!! :D After that it has been smooth sailing ever since. (knock on wood). So if you relax and stay focused at the tasks at hand, then you should be fine.


JAMES

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