CygnusX-1 43 #1 March 15, 2005 How would you correct for this situation? And please don’t say, just break and reform the formation. That doesn’t help if I’m back in the same situation I was in. I want to know how to overcome the problem without breaking. The best way I can describe it although it is not technically accurate is that we were trying to build a Satellite. Two of us were in the T type formation when we started to spin clockwise. Spinning is not really the right word because we were really orbiting the other member of the formation. I was the one that was not taking grips (if that makes any difference). I’m not sure if I was causing the orbiting/spinning or if I was being pulled by the other person who was attached to me. My question is: What input would I need to do to correct that spin – either it being to stop myself from causing the spin or I needed to overcome the bad body position of the other person? I’m sure those of you that are coaches have had to correct for students bad body positions. What should I have done to stop the spin, because we did not stop until we broke apart? Thanks for your replies. Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #2 March 15, 2005 I'm having a really hard time envisioning this situation. A satelite is a two way with two sidebodies, both sidebodies on the same side. Are you saying that your sidebody was not docked to the other sidebody duo yet? Or are you saying your sidebody set was causing the formation to spin. I assume this is a 4 way? Is this correct? Maybe others can understand, but I'll definitely need more information. I can think of a few potential problems, but most may not be applicable as I don't really understand what was occurring. A simple windows paint diagram may help. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #3 March 16, 2005 Ok, I really wasn't sure of the correct terminology which is why I said the satellite wasn't technically correct. There were only two of us docked in a sidebody configuration. We were orbiting around a third person. There were only three people in the dive. Only the two of us (I believe) were spinning. I hope this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkiD_PL8 0 #4 March 16, 2005 Either person could be causing that spin. The person taking the sidebody could have dropped a knee or something. The person recieving the sidebody could have had their legs to far out or in or had their body position screwed from taking the dock. Hard to tell really without more info or video. Greenie in training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #5 March 16, 2005 So basically you had a two-way sidebody spinning around a point. You, as the guy who wasn't taking grips, were in the best position to correct the situation, as you had both hands and feet available. Think about how you would correct the situation if you were doing it solo, and do that to an extreme. In the case of orbiting, you are doing both a sideslide and a turn at once...you need to correct both. Simply dig your side going into the orbit while dropping your knee to counteract the turn. It's really hard to tell without video of the manuever or at least a picture of your body position, but my inclination will be towards you having your feet out driving the formation around in a circle while your sidebody buddy was trying to correct it, just causing you to spin instead of drive forward. You may be able to try just bringing your feet closer to your butt. It is unlikely you will drive the two-way back much and it will stop the spinning if this is the problem. In all honesty, I really don't have a clue. Ask a videographer to go up with you once or get a good RW coach to go out with you guys....surely neither of those would be a problem getting a Deland. Certainly save a lot of money over fixing this after 5 or so jumps on your own. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #6 March 16, 2005 Sometimes you can get too wrapped up in the technical aspects of getting out of a spin. If the others are involved in orbiting as well as you, one initial thing to try would be to pick a point on the horizon and try to steady you or your piece to a heading on it, because stopping an orbit can be as simple as one of the players taking the first step towards stopping the spin. |I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
