AggieDave 6 #26 March 30, 2005 Literally just about every large DZ has someone you can learn from. However, a good structured course with jumping is a little harder to find. Perris Valley, SD AZ, Deland, etc all have folks that can do that though. http://freedomofflight.tv/ That's Scott's school. There are other coaches there as well, they're all top notch.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #27 March 30, 2005 LOL ... my Dad is bigger than your Dad. Sooner or later we're going to have to stop all of this. QuoteTell you what, go take his course then come back to this discussion. You're absolutely right that until I've received some coaching from Scott that I will never truly know how good he is. I've just happened to have choosen to receive my current coaching (3 times now) from a pretty bad ass, knowledgeable and passionate fellow out in CA who's setup his own Canopy Control coaching program (including Ground Launching on top of the swooping). But until I get to see how Scott teaches (or Mr Germaine), I never really will know who's better. So we can stop this bantering now. At least we agree that coaching is good and well worth the extra $$$. I'd much rather swoop with the knowledge I have now than try to learn it all through trial and error. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #28 March 30, 2005 Quote LOL ... my Dad is bigger than your Dad. Sooner or later we're going to have to stop all of this. Bwahahaha! That was good. Quote At least we agree that coaching is good and well worthn the extra $$$. I'd much rather swoop with the knowledge I have now than try to learn it all through trial and error. Damn straight! My swooping skill has increased 10fold since taking Scott's course. I had had some training from a couple of people, but never a structured course. The course was amazing and did good things for me.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #29 March 30, 2005 QuoteMy swooping skill has increased 10fold since taking Scott's course. I still have a lot of work ahead of me, but my swooping has also improved dramatically since Mr Slaton explained a few things to me (plus another PSTer stopped by our DZ this last weekend and backed up a lot of the things that Jim was trying to teach me). Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huka551 0 #30 March 30, 2005 Was it expensive? Muff Brother 3723 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #31 March 30, 2005 QuoteWas it expensive? My coaching was not cheap. But the information I recieved was priceless. I can't speak for how Scott Miller conducts his coaching program (including the pricing), but my coaching was cheaper when my coach stayed on the ground and videoed/critiqued my landings. But it got more expensive when I had to do high altitude hop n' pops with him. Of course you've got to do what you've got to do (including paying extra for your coaches slot) when the coach needs to be up there in the air with you. In the long run, the money is well spent. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #32 March 30, 2005 > Is a flat turn completely flat? Surely you lose some height? Yes, you still lose some height. The big deal about a flat turn is that you don't dive. If you make a perfect 90 degree flat turn at 80 feet, come out of it at 10 feet, and flare, you can land normally. If you do a toggle turn at 80 feet, come out of it at 10 feet, and try to flare, you will be lucky to not seriously injure yourself. There are two goals in a flat turn - most turn with least altitude loss, and no diving after the turn. They are used when you find yourself low and have to turn to avoid an obstacle, or you want to get at least somewhat into the wind. Note that often landing downwind is preferable to any type of low turn though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #33 March 30, 2005 Quotemy coaching was cheaper when my coach stayed on the ground and video/critiqued my landings. That's how Scott does his courses when he travels, since there's 8 people per day long course and sometimes more then a couple days worth of courses its not practical for him to do air to air most of the time. I can't remember exactly what it cost, but it was under $100 for the course, per course (basic and advanced). Well worth the money. QuoteWas it expensive? How much does a pin in a femur cost?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #34 March 30, 2005 QuoteSo where would I take a course with Scott Miller, or any other canopy coach? To answer your question, and stop the "My canopy coach is better then yours" debate (), have a look at The Ranch website http://www.ranchskydive.com/ and send them an email. I think Scott is comming over early in the year for soem coaching. Since its not far from NYC, it may be a good option for you. You can try looking into contacting him, and Brian Germain and seing what are their courses and tour schedules like as they do a lot on the east coast.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
