aftermid 0 #1 May 6, 2005 I heard about a DZ dropping tandems at 6.5K. Seems like a pretty beat ride for $200+. Is there any standard-understood minimum tandem exit altitude? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #2 May 6, 2005 Most DZ will take the tandems to full alt. (whatever that is for their DZ) I've been at cessnea DZs where they put them out at 10.5 and at Turbin DZs where we have taken them as high as 18 grand. I agree, putting a tandem out at 6.5 kinda sucks especially if they are paying the full going rate for tandems. I'm at Skydive Greensburg in Indiana, we put tandems out at between 10.5 and 12.5 depending on the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #3 May 6, 2005 I have never heard of a DZ jumping tandems that low if more altitude was available. I have taken tandems out that low due to bad weather but they were told about the lower altitude before boarding the plane and given the option of coming back another day or getting out lower. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #4 May 6, 2005 I have taken tandems at low altitudes and if it is below 7.5K they get the option to go or no go. This is based only on Weather limitations. Other then that they go to 10.5K (cessna DZ) Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #5 May 6, 2005 It's business. Whatever the market wil bear, etc. Also, as mentioned, it can be weather-related too. Some people pay full price for a car too. Caveat emptor. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #6 May 6, 2005 Some places will offer different heights at different prices: http://skydivebyronbay.com/tandem.htm Also in Australia we did some demo tandems out of a chopper at around 6k. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achowe 0 #7 May 6, 2005 70 second ff from 14,000? What height are they pulling at?------------------------------------------------- Woooaaaaaa!!! Woooaaaa!!! I'm gettin' off it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #8 May 6, 2005 I know - funny isn't it. Nice DZ though - one of the prettiest I have ever jumped at. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbennettjr 0 #9 May 6, 2005 Quote70 second ff from 14,000? What height are they pulling at? They must be using the those "Open on impact Reserves"...or maybe the DZ is 2K below sea level? chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #10 May 6, 2005 Lodi offers low tandems for heavy jumpers. The tandem never reaches terminal and there is a lot less wear and tear on the instructor and gear that way.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamsr 0 #11 May 6, 2005 lowest i have seen is about 8k, and just coz it was really hot and the plane wasn't climbing (cessna 206) not through lack of trying, but we'd already been in the air over 25 minutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #12 May 6, 2005 Skydive Las Vegas offers tandems from 5000 feet AGL (http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/rates.html). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1shlips 2 #13 May 6, 2005 What kind of static line system do they use for that? Geesh!-- drop zone (drop'zone) n. An incestuous sesspool of broken people. -- Attributed to a whuffo girlfriend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #14 May 6, 2005 I would think they "strip" the drogue release handles and do a hop-n-pop, just like on a normal solo rig (no drouge fall). I know it's possible on Strong. Is it also technically possible on other systems? Or, maybe they static line them - what are these wide yellow tapes on some of tandem rigs here: http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/images/tandem_rigs.jpg ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1shlips 2 #15 May 6, 2005 It was sarcasm.... -- drop zone (drop'zone) n. An incestuous sesspool of broken people. -- Attributed to a whuffo girlfriend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 May 6, 2005 Quote what are these wide yellow tapes on some of tandem rigs here Uhh...that's the drogue bridle.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #17 May 6, 2005 QuoteQuote what are these wide yellow tapes on some of tandem rigs here Uhh...that's the drogue bridle. Ooops . Thank's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sdctlc 0 #18 May 6, 2005 QuoteI would think they "strip" the drogue release handles and do a hop-n-pop, just like on a normal solo rig (no drouge fall). Actually in the RWS manual for the Vector Tandem they say that you have to pull in sequence: Quote "NOTE: If the exit is to be lower than 7500' (2500m) AGL do not pull the drouge release handle prior to the deployment of the drouge The handles, drouge and drouge release, must be pulled in sequence to ensure a proper deployment" Regarding altitudes the RWS manual also states a recommended exit altitude is 7500' (2500m) to give sufficient time to deal with any problem or a varity of situations that could come up before main deployment by 4500' (1500m) AGL. The Manual also states that the minimum exit altitude is at 4500' (1500m) with a minimum main deployment altitude of 4000' AGL (Reserve initiation altitude is set at 2500') There is a line noted as well that says: Quote "These lower exit altitudes should only be reserved for the most experienced Tandem Instructors" Hope that helps, Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #19 May 6, 2005 QuoteLodi offers low tandems for heavy jumpers. The tandem never reaches terminal and there is a lot less wear and tear on the instructor and gear that way. I've seen many of the DZs in CA specify (not in so many words) that they'll do a subterminal opening for heavy customers. Heavy being defined over a pretty wide range. Doesn't seem like a good deal - go elsewhere, or get a little lighter. And with the wide range of TM weights, is there really a big difference between 215 and 225? I guess you need a threshold somewhere, but it seems a tad arbitrary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aftermid 0 #20 May 6, 2005 I guess I was just spoiled with 14k my first time and signed up for AFF right away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nickkk 0 #21 May 6, 2005 QuoteI guess I was just spoiled with 14k my first time and signed up for AFF right away. as was i in miami, but now where im doing my aff (nj shore) we have a cessena so we jump 10.5 - 11 What do you do when someone throws a big planet at you? Throw your pilot chute in defense! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #22 May 6, 2005 QuoteI guess I was just spoiled with 14k my first time and signed up for AFF right away. spoiled is getting to do all the AFFs at 14,15k. My first chunk were. Then it was 12.5 at perris (because it's 1500 msl) with as low as a 4500 pull, also otters. Then it was 10.5 out the side door of a 206, and back up to 5.5. I didn't like that as much...lot less time to get my shit together on the diveflow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanglesOZQld 0 #23 May 10, 2005 We do our jumps from 6k , 12k and 14k and price them accordingly. If we cannot get out at any of these heights it is a free plane ride. Often there are say 2 tandems at 6k and the rest (up to 7 more tandems) wanting 12 or 14. Due to being held by air traffic the 6k jumpers often get a free extra to the higher height!! We use Strong rigs and the jumps from 6k are done in the conventional manner, drogue throw followed by normal release at 5k. It is a quick ride!! The only time we jump with the drogue acting as a pilot chute (drogue already released before exit) is when we use the Tandem gear for large (2,000 square foot) flag demos. BSBD!! -Mark. "A Scar is just a Tattoo with a story!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
sdctlc 0 #18 May 6, 2005 QuoteI would think they "strip" the drogue release handles and do a hop-n-pop, just like on a normal solo rig (no drouge fall). Actually in the RWS manual for the Vector Tandem they say that you have to pull in sequence: Quote "NOTE: If the exit is to be lower than 7500' (2500m) AGL do not pull the drouge release handle prior to the deployment of the drouge The handles, drouge and drouge release, must be pulled in sequence to ensure a proper deployment" Regarding altitudes the RWS manual also states a recommended exit altitude is 7500' (2500m) to give sufficient time to deal with any problem or a varity of situations that could come up before main deployment by 4500' (1500m) AGL. The Manual also states that the minimum exit altitude is at 4500' (1500m) with a minimum main deployment altitude of 4000' AGL (Reserve initiation altitude is set at 2500') There is a line noted as well that says: Quote "These lower exit altitudes should only be reserved for the most experienced Tandem Instructors" Hope that helps, Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 May 6, 2005 QuoteLodi offers low tandems for heavy jumpers. The tandem never reaches terminal and there is a lot less wear and tear on the instructor and gear that way. I've seen many of the DZs in CA specify (not in so many words) that they'll do a subterminal opening for heavy customers. Heavy being defined over a pretty wide range. Doesn't seem like a good deal - go elsewhere, or get a little lighter. And with the wide range of TM weights, is there really a big difference between 215 and 225? I guess you need a threshold somewhere, but it seems a tad arbitrary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aftermid 0 #20 May 6, 2005 I guess I was just spoiled with 14k my first time and signed up for AFF right away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nickkk 0 #21 May 6, 2005 QuoteI guess I was just spoiled with 14k my first time and signed up for AFF right away. as was i in miami, but now where im doing my aff (nj shore) we have a cessena so we jump 10.5 - 11 What do you do when someone throws a big planet at you? Throw your pilot chute in defense! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 May 6, 2005 QuoteI guess I was just spoiled with 14k my first time and signed up for AFF right away. spoiled is getting to do all the AFFs at 14,15k. My first chunk were. Then it was 12.5 at perris (because it's 1500 msl) with as low as a 4500 pull, also otters. Then it was 10.5 out the side door of a 206, and back up to 5.5. I didn't like that as much...lot less time to get my shit together on the diveflow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanglesOZQld 0 #23 May 10, 2005 We do our jumps from 6k , 12k and 14k and price them accordingly. If we cannot get out at any of these heights it is a free plane ride. Often there are say 2 tandems at 6k and the rest (up to 7 more tandems) wanting 12 or 14. Due to being held by air traffic the 6k jumpers often get a free extra to the higher height!! We use Strong rigs and the jumps from 6k are done in the conventional manner, drogue throw followed by normal release at 5k. It is a quick ride!! The only time we jump with the drogue acting as a pilot chute (drogue already released before exit) is when we use the Tandem gear for large (2,000 square foot) flag demos. BSBD!! -Mark. "A Scar is just a Tattoo with a story!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
