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QuoteThe USPA can not instigate FAA violation punishments, the BOD members haven't gone to any FED weeney power sucking band-camp yet. Or have they?
They can ask that we, as USPA members, be aware of and not violate FARs.
I know what you are saying. USPA can not force the FAA to violate anyone. True. But, as Tom pointed out in the following post the BOD can take action against a Group Member/Member when they know of FAR violations and they can warn the general membership about their lack of caring for the regulations set forth. When a DZ advertises to the public they are saying "come trust us". There is a duty (even though we sign a waiver saying we won't sue) by the DZ to measure up. The FARs were written in blood. Every rule there was the result of someone dieing.
When pilots get their medical done they have to check a box at the bottom of the form that says the government can check our automobile driving record for violations of DUI/DWI. Why? What does a driving record have to do with it? Basicly, it means can you follow the law of the land when operating machinery around the public? It goes to judgement or lack there of. So, if they know you are busting some FARs the FAA might come in and say "So what else are you violating and have no regard for safety?" Safety is an attitude really. We exist in an inherently dangerous environment. We need to show that we've thought ahead about the consequences of our actions to make sure we have a positive outcome. Zooming by a bridge with kids standing on it while wearing an illegal parachute rig jumping from a plane attempting to fly through guy wires which does create a hazard to persons and property on the ground is a MAJOR lack of judgement on part of all the parties involved. And now I've heard the AF cadet who was flying that load has lost the right to be a pilot in the AF over this accident. Such a shame and what a waist.
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QuoteUSPA needs to be proactive in FAR enforcement, and we have the authority to do so right in the BSR's.
Tom Buchanan
Instructor (AFF, SL, IAD, Tandem)
Author JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy
If you are saying that the USPA should turn members over to the FAA for enforcement action, I couldn't disagree more. Are we going to turn in our fellow jumpers for violations, that's scary? If we begin the enforcement mentality, then we will be enforcing all of them, including the $10,000 cost for the very rare times when a cloud comes out of nowhere and finds you.
It is unclear to me what you support, so I choose to believe I mis-understood. I just wanted to say the above and this gave me the opportunity.
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QuoteIf you are saying that the USPA should turn members over to the FAA for enforcement action, I couldn't disagree more.
I don't think he is saying USPA should turn people over to the FAA, but rather if a member is found in violation of an FAR, then USPA should take disciplinary action against that person.
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Several of you missed the point.
USPA is being pro-active by grounding USPA members who violate Federal Air Regulations.
I did not hear anything about USPA ratting-out offending members to the FAA.
That is the way the world is supposed to revolve.
USPA is supposed to be self-regulating.
USPA is supposed to ground offenders so the FAA is not bothered.
The FAA would much rather chase Al Queda than worry about a handful of naughty skydivers.
As for the Air Force disciplining the pilot of the BASE rig/birdman suit/bridge accident .... also the way the world is supposed to revolve. If young pilots demonstrate poor judgement (i.e. permit passengers to violate FARs) they will never be allowed to fly big, fancy, shiny, expensive airplanes.
The world is revolving as it is supposed to.
USPA is being pro-active by grounding USPA members who violate Federal Air Regulations.
I did not hear anything about USPA ratting-out offending members to the FAA.
That is the way the world is supposed to revolve.
USPA is supposed to be self-regulating.
USPA is supposed to ground offenders so the FAA is not bothered.
The FAA would much rather chase Al Queda than worry about a handful of naughty skydivers.
As for the Air Force disciplining the pilot of the BASE rig/birdman suit/bridge accident .... also the way the world is supposed to revolve. If young pilots demonstrate poor judgement (i.e. permit passengers to violate FARs) they will never be allowed to fly big, fancy, shiny, expensive airplanes.
The world is revolving as it is supposed to.
QuoteGee... there is enough info on this fourm alone to identify a few of those violations.
The BSR one would be letting a jumper out of a Plane with a BASE rig in CO
The Night flight is easy to identify if you listen to Ron's agruements at all in MS.
The non rated JM's could be a lot of places
"Subpart C—Parachute Equipment and Packing§ 105.41 Applicability.This subpart prescribed rules governing parachute equipment used in civil parachute operations. § 105.43 Use of single-harness, dual-parachute systems.No person may conduct a parachute operation using a single-harness, dual-parachute system, and no pilot in command of an aircraft may allow any person to conduct a parachute operation from that aircraft using a single-harness, dual-parachute system, unless that system has at least one main parachute, one approved reserve parachute, and one approved single person harness and container that are packed as follows:
This is the wording in Part 105 as of May 9, 2001. It says if a single-harness, dual-parachute system is used it must comply with the following. It does not say that a single-harness, dual-parachute system must be used. It says "any person..........from that aircraft using". This could open a whole new bag of worms. Something to think about.
Maybe some input from the legal minds?
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If you are saying that the USPA should turn members over to the FAA for enforcement action, I couldn't disagree more. Are we going to turn in our fellow jumpers for violations, that's scary?
I was simply saying it is better for USPA to enforce FAR's within our organization, thus demonstrating to FAA that we can self regulate. That's a better option than turning those violators over to the FAA, or demonstrating no control and encouraging FAA to get involved.
-tom buchanan
Tom Buchanan
Instructor Emeritus
Comm Pilot MSEL,G
Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy
Instructor Emeritus
Comm Pilot MSEL,G
Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy
Of course USPA can enforce FAR violations! The function of USPA is one of self regulation so the government doesn't need to do it. USPA needs to be proactive in FAR enforcement, and we have the authority to do so right in the BSR's.
Basic Safety regulations, 2004 SIM:
B. Compliance withFederal regulations (NW)
1.No skydive may be made in violation of Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulations.
Tom Buchanan
Instructor (AFF, SL, IAD, Tandem)
Author JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy
Instructor Emeritus
Comm Pilot MSEL,G
Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy
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