phoenixlpr 0 #26 May 24, 2005 QuoteAn RSL would have likely killed this jumper and possibly everyone else on board. Why do you think so? If he was hanging on the tail of the plane by the main? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #27 May 24, 2005 >>being thankful that I could finally disconnect the Sentinel<< I was in a helicopter going up for my first 20-second delay (static line program) and we pulled a hard g turn and the Sentinel on my chest mounted reserve fired. The pilot chute hit the other side of CH-46 from where I was sitting, but it was the crack of 22 caliber round going off that startled me . . . NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #28 May 24, 2005 The canopy did not hit the tail until after he cut away. If he would have cut away with an RSL the reserve would have fired into the tail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #29 May 24, 2005 are there any cons to a rig with a cypress? Im new but I have always thought since I found my love of the sky that I will always wear a cypress, however Ive never thought about if there are risks.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #30 May 24, 2005 Quoteare there any cons to a rig with a cypress? Im new but I have always thought since I found my love of the sky that I will always wear a cypress, however Ive never thought about if there are risks. If you do a search, you'll come up with hundreds of posts on the subject. Usually everyone these days is pro AAD, most people are anti AAD-dependancy (going on jumps you maybe shouldn't because "hey I got a cypres!"), and opinions vary about WHICH modern AAD, especially about the Vigil. Risks, with any AAD there could be a premature opening, but with cypres and now the vigil this doesn't happen much and if it does it has a reason (cypres not send in for 4/8 yr check so not fixed to withstand radio signals, an AAD that got wet, various bugs now worked out of the vigil, stuff like that). A dual deployment is also a risk but with a cypres/vigil you'd be very low then already so to avoid a dual deployment DON'T GO LOW (duh). But if i were you I'd buy a rig with either a cypres, cypres2 or vigil in it. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #31 May 24, 2005 >are there any cons to a rig with a cypress? You are more likely to have a two-out if you open your main low. The reserve can be fired by RF interference, as from a radio or radar, although modern AAD's are mostly immune to this. You may have to turn off the cypres depending on what type it is if you land with the plane. Personally, I have been on one or two jumps where I was very glad I _didn't_ have a cypres. That being said, they still do far more good than harm, and the harm they can do is generally far less severe than the problems they can prevent (i.e. impact at terminal or under a streamered main.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #32 May 24, 2005 Quote Someone in the History Forum mentioned how everything in skydiving is so upside down nowadays. My first jump "with" a Cypres was as big a deal as your first jump "without" one . . . NickD BASE 194 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HAH! I had a thousand jumps before Cypres was invented. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #33 May 24, 2005 RSLs have saved far more people than they have killed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skylee_pinoy 0 #34 May 25, 2005 i've never jump with AAD... so with the rest of our members and 1st time student jumpers... since the club was founded in 1981 up to date, no injuries or death happened. imagine ground training for two weeks...!!! but if i will be DZ owner, i will surely mandate to use AAD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #35 May 25, 2005 I also had "long" course. My FJC was three or four hours a night spread out over an entire week. We had plenty of time to practice and plenty of time for things to sink in. Compared to that everything today is a "mill." Sometimes I feel less like a Skydiving Instructor and more like a Dance Instructor. I teach the freefall dance, one, two, cha cha cha . . . Then I teach the malfunction boogie, look and reach and pull, and look and reach and pull . . . The canopy dance is easy, that one's like a slow Waltz . . . One thing I noticed though, spastic dancers make spastic flyers. NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites