apoil 0 #1 May 25, 2005 After making a notation in a student's logbook that she fell slow (103mph) she laughed at how relative things can be where 100 miles an hour is slow. so: 1. 100mph is slow 2. 1000 feet above the ground is low 3. 45 degrees (at altitude) is warm 4. an aircraft that seats 20 is large more? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 May 25, 2005 A used canopy that costs $1000 is cheap A fully loaded Otter is comfyYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #3 May 25, 2005 Heard this one recently: An Otter is slow pffft... they must not have had many 182 jumps... NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #4 May 25, 2005 QuoteA fully loaded Otter is comfy Relative to what?! I'd much rather be on a fully loaded King Air or Pac or 182. 24 bodies worth of heat is oppressive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #5 May 25, 2005 You've never jumped a full-loaded -200 series Otter on a 35C+ day, have you? That's slow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #6 May 25, 2005 QuoteYou've never jumped a full-loaded -200 series Otter on a 35C+ day, have you? That's slow. So is a 182 with 5 onboard jump to 14K Take the time to get to know each other, it's a 40 min rideBut the views are spectacularYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #7 May 25, 2005 Is it slower than a fully loaded Beech 18??? I think not! NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #8 May 25, 2005 A rig that weighs 20 lbs is heavy.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #9 May 25, 2005 170sqft canopy is big "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #10 May 25, 2005 Skydiving is safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #11 May 25, 2005 QuoteSkydiving is safe. Uh... it's not? I didn't get the memo! (but I did get the one about being safer than driving to the dz thingie though...) "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #12 May 25, 2005 being a skydiver is safer then being ZarqawiSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #13 May 25, 2005 No it isn't. He has a 100% success rate at staying alive. Skydivers don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #14 May 25, 2005 QuoteNo it isn't. He has a 100% success rate at staying alive. Skydivers don't. He is one guy. Skydivers are a group. Statistics generated from a group are not directly applicable or comparable to an individual. I would expect that person (and every individual person we examine) to either be 100% alive or 100% dead at every sampling. (Let's leave persistent vegetative states out of this - they clear themselves up sooner or later.) But skydivers as a whole have neither a 100% nor a 0% survival rate. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #15 May 25, 2005 That was the whole point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #16 May 25, 2005 QuoteHe is one guy. Skydivers are a group. Statistics generated from a group are not directly applicable or comparable to an individual. I would expect that person (and every individual person we examine) to either be 100% alive or 100% dead at every sampling. (Let's leave persistent vegetative states out of this - they clear themselves up sooner or later.) But skydivers as a whole have neither a 100% nor a 0% survival rate. Silly me! I thought I was posting in the General Skydiving Discussion forum! I have to stop drinking. Next thing I know, I'll be reading in the Incident forum that AZ and OBL collided on final, and they both femured! "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickD 1 #17 May 25, 2005 1000 feet above the ground is "high" NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #18 May 25, 2005 Quotemore? Traffic lights: Yellow happens before Red. Jump plane lights: Yellow happens before green. -and- or as my wuffo friend pointed out - a 4way in sex is often considered a bigway, but in skydiving you need many more to be a bigway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #19 May 25, 2005 --Knowing everybody's weight is a necessary thing and nobody hides it. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #20 May 25, 2005 QuoteNo it isn't. He has a 100% success rate at staying alive. Skydivers don't. Everybody has 100% success at dying. Skydiving - Tie dye and neon colors don't warrent a second look. Living in a camper/RV is high class. Sliding across the turf at 30+ MPH is fun. Adding lead weight makes you faster. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman32 0 #21 May 25, 2005 You're forgetting the most obvious... Throwing yourself out of a "perfectly good airplane" at altitude, isn't insane but something we love to do and do it as much as possible Inveniam Viam aut Faciam I'm back biatches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #22 May 25, 2005 Its the only time when flying that you open the door to clear out the fart of the gross guy who thought it was funny to deprive me of air... Still swear he had to have shit himself ....Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SixtySecRush 0 #23 May 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteNo it isn't. He has a 100% success rate at staying alive. Skydivers don't. He is one guy. Skydivers are a group. Statistics generated from a group are not directly applicable or comparable to an individual. I would expect that person (and every individual person we examine) to either be 100% alive or 100% dead at every sampling. (Let's leave persistent vegetative states out of this - they clear themselves up sooner or later.) But skydivers as a whole have neither a 100% nor a 0% survival rate.[/reply Zarqawi is the leader of the insurgents just like we have a top guy at USPA. Our losses at DZ's are a lot less than Zarqawi's losses. Not relative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ladyskydiver 0 #24 May 26, 2005 Skydiving is the only world where I would allow a guy to take all my measurements and willingly tell him my weight just so I can get a jumpsuit that fits. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
ladyskydiver 0 #24 May 26, 2005 Skydiving is the only world where I would allow a guy to take all my measurements and willingly tell him my weight just so I can get a jumpsuit that fits. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites