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Why hasn't someone invented a visual altimeter that functions like a CamEye?

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Oh, I hear you and know what you mean. It might not be for everyone but some people will like it I am sure. I want to see the one with the GPS in it;)
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Might be a nice gizmo to register data, but who needs to see the speed and stuff "live" ???



Me me me me. I'm already obsessing over slowing down my tracking fallrates and having live data would be immediate feedback.

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But if technology saves more lives, isn't that a good thing?



Who's to prove it's saving lives? I would sugest just as much as it might be saving lives, it's making people more careless, thus creating more opportunities for disaster.


Yea, like the three ring setup :S



THere is a big difference. The 3 ring was an improvement on and existing peice of equipment that was needed. It rediced the complexity of the existing systems.

It could alsobe argued that with no cuttaway system the system is simpler and reduces the chance of a fatality from an improperly completed or accidental activation.
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But if technology saves more lives, isn't that a good thing?



Who's to prove it's saving lives? I would sugest just as much as it might be saving lives, it's making people more careless, thus creating more opportunities for disaster.


Yea, like the three ring setup :S



THere is a big difference. The 3 ring was an improvement on and existing peice of equipment that was needed. It rediced the complexity of the existing systems.

It could alsobe argued that with no cuttaway system the system is simpler and reduces the chance of a fatality from an improperly completed or accidental activation.



We could jump without parachutes and just avoid that possibility of a malfunction.

Things like altimeters, parachutes, aad, velcro, etc are all technology driven, inspired etc etc.....trying to define which one makes you device dependent and doesn't is just an exercise in semantics.
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trying to define which one makes you device dependent and doesn't is just an exercise in semantics.



I'll remember that the next time I'm taken out by a novice skydiver who's distracted while looking at their HUD, and worried cause their beeps are not going off while they are on a load over their skill level but they'll be ok on cause they have a Cypres.
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trying to define which one makes you device dependent and doesn't is just an exercise in semantics.



I'll remember that the next time I'm taken out by a novice skydiver who's distracted while looking at their HUD, and worried cause their beeps are not going off while they are on a load over their skill level but they'll be ok on cause they have a Cypres.



Or people that feel they can exceed TSO specs or keep a sloppy container because an ad says their main/reserve will still save their life if deployed head down, or those that feel they can avoid bouncing by looking at their wrist/chest mounted altimieter avery few moments (damn those dependent people), or those that pack a sloppy main because "I have a reserve" or because "it's designed to open no matter what", etc....I know I can come up with a much longer list than this just by sitting on any packing mat or dirt dive area at ANY dz....and I could do it without talking about an AAD, HUD, or audible. Some of the worst offenders would be the oldest, most experienced jumpers out there.

How does anyone expect people to be safe about new toys when we abuse the time tested ones?
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Having the ability to see ones altitude by changing your focus for a split second can be beneficial and quicker than looking at one on a hand or on a team mates harness.

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How does anyone expect people to be safe about new toys when we abuse the time tested ones?



Wear an altimeter if you want, but don't forget to look down.

Wear an AAD if you want, but remember to pull.

Wear an audible if you want, but be in the habit of taking actions BEFORE the warnings.

For example:
I normally breakoff at 4500-5000
I normally pull at 2500-3000
My decision hard-deck is 1500

I set my dytter warnings at 2000 and 1500. I don't use a "breakoff alarm" but if I did it would be 4000.

I don't always wear it, but when I do I rarely hear it, (occaisionally as I snivel). Its just a back up, plus all that beeping annoys me.

Some people don't breakoff or pull until they hear their dytter. Big mistake.

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I want to produce a GVA (Group Visual Altimeter).

At breakoff, a big police light on top of your helmet starts blinking/spinning to signal others in the group.


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I set mine the same, no signal until below where I should be deployed. I found that I was becoming dependant on my audible and got rid of it as my primary. I change helmets alot and didn't want to end up not paying attention because I was used to things beeping.
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