reiverat 0 #1 June 6, 2005 Just got through AFF. Made the one "poised exit" from the king air as required in the program. Since then have nearly patented two exits. One is the dive to the tail where I then do a 180, a flip and two barrel rolls. The other is the attempted poised exit where I look down, kick my legs like a madman, then flip, half roll and recover to do whatever the planned dive is. just curious if others who were naturally gifted with these fun exits ever figured out how to repeatedly do the somewhat stable exits that the instructors like to see. I may want to do one of those on my hop and pop. I've tried a number of different exit thoughts, i.e watch the plane fly away (haven't yet) don't kick the legs (the legs don't listen) Look above the plane and watch it come into view (slipped on that exit ) and finally do a couple of toe taps going over the hill (that was also on the dive where I slipped and was already tumbling before I engaged the brain-leg communications link). anyway, appreciate any thoughts on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #2 June 6, 2005 Biggest tip = relax. Geez, I used to (and still do) hate it when people told me that! Other than that, practice makes perfect. All cliched, but true. Flying on the hill is pretty much the same as normal freefall, just a little more subterminal and a little less vertical. :) You'll figure it out.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #3 June 6, 2005 Quote Biggest tip = relax. Geez, I used to (and still do) hate it when people told me that! "Telling" someone to 'relax' usually has the opposite effect. And saying it is usually more of a pat on the back for the person talking rather than for the person getting instruction. Best to find an exercise (close eyes and breath slowly together, visualization, etc) that helps people (or oneself) to relax rather than just out and out say it. Better results and better attitudes. Edit: I get much better reception from people when I use the term "arousal" rather than "relax". Isn't that wierd? The connotation with "relax" must be, in general, rather negative. But "arousal levels" sounds more professional and something worth controlling and learning from the old hands out there. I'm always amazed at the power of the choice of wording we use. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moth 0 #4 June 6, 2005 sounds like you're having great fun. why worry? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #5 June 6, 2005 Enjoy it while you can, All to soon will come the day when your exits are perfect. It's a bit like riding a bike, at first you fall off then after a while you can't fall off even if you try Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #6 June 6, 2005 Quote I get much better reception from people when I use the term "arousal" rather than "relax". I'm not sure in what context you mean. How can you use the word "arousal" to answer the poster's question? In fact, I'm honestly not sure how arousal fits into a skydive unless I'm misunderstanding the word or the context.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #7 June 6, 2005 I had serious issues with my exit. for almost the first 35-40 jumps... (my A lic H&P I wasn't exactly stable... the video shows me kicking a bit... I didn't roll but I tried to swim...) one of my coachs really helped out getting my exits stable on the hill... my favorite solo exit from a king air is to just hop out from inside the plane head up watching it leave, I can float from outside but I much prefer a hop out . In fact at first I perfered being outside the plane... but I have since gravitated to the inside of the plane... Like others have said you need probably just need to relax and trust the will do its job... the way that I relax before exiting is to take a couple of good breaths right before hopping out... you take two because one isn't as good as two (not my own thoughts... I got it from a book...) Finding a good coach to help with stability is also a great way to improve your skills... ScottLivin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #8 June 6, 2005 Another couple of good exits are the dog paddle poised exit and the windmilling arms sitfly exit. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #9 June 6, 2005 I had really bad exits for alot of jumps.. Figured out my stable exit in my 20 something jump numbers, .. My best stable is actually the diving exit, but the one that I did best first was looking forward, lean out of the plane, legs straight, arms about 45 degrees down, LOOKING UP.. Trying to keep looking at the plane on during my exit was what I found really did it for me... But then again who knows, you'll figure it out.. Enjoy it Now I try to screw up my exits just for fun when I'm solo... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reiverat 0 #10 June 6, 2005 actually I am having great fun with the exits. I tend to like the crazy exits and then getting stable 5 or 6 seconds later. But I am trying to get an A license and don't see that happening until I can get stable. I have been focused in getting the license within 60 days of my first jump so I could dive with my brother over the 4th of july holiday. But I've thought it over some more and really don't care if I get the license by then. I'm planning to have fun and the license will get here when I learn all the stuff I need to learn. thanks for the feedback. Fun is important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reiverat 0 #11 June 6, 2005 Relaxing is the main issue I went over with my level 7 instructor and my wind tunnel instructor. I tend to "overrelax", i.e. I get floopy in the legs and then everything falls apart. The problem is figuring out what to relax and what not to relax...I expect there are similar issues on the exit. Thanks for the reply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reiverat 0 #12 June 6, 2005 yes, their was a golf pro who never used the word "relax". His answer was to be "at ease" vice relaxed. He also reffered to golf as "controlled violence" and said you couldn't do that while relaxed. I eventually figured that sport out and hope to do the same here. Appreciate all the people that have posted exit idea. Will try a few of the others and see what works. Thanks much, Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #13 June 6, 2005 Arousal is not necessarily sexual; the definition in question is a state of heightened physiological activity. So: amped up, nervous, tense, relaxed, scared, hyperactive all describe various arousal levels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #14 June 7, 2005 Quote Trying to keep looking at the plane on during my exit was what I found really did it for me I'd have to agree with that. I went through IAD program and found that if I kept my eyes on the plane, I started having nice, stable exits without having to think about it. Give it a try, and good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #15 June 7, 2005 Quote I'd have to agree with that. I went through IAD program and found that if I kept my eyes on the plane, I started having nice, stable exits without having to think about it. Give it a try, and good luck. I didn't even notice the plane till maybe jump 16 or so. . .I just kept pretending I was "swan diving" out of the otter. . .lol. It made me hold stable. Don't know why but it worked. . .and forget the damned relax statement. . .I didn't relax till about jump 16 when I was standing in the door checking the spot and realized I really wasn't scared anymore. . .lol.________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites