When did they chage the requirements for licenses??

[jasonRose 0]

I wonder if they considered what it is going to cost some one to get there D license. It seems like there is a lot of people out there that have the low number D license I wish they would of held out for me. :)
500 jumps x $22.00 = $11000.00 bucks WOW

Unless you get a job at the DZ and jump for free.

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[Jimbo 0]

Why does it matter?

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[darkwing 5]

I'm sure they didn't consider the cost. I think they only cared what the D signifies, and, without being too complicated, 500 is a nice workable number. Certainly it has been MANY years since 200 jumps would have been considered "experienced". It seems to me that the whole licensing scheme is frought with compromise, and the licensing bodies have done well enough, if not exactly how I would have done it. I am sure there will be more changes in my lifetime.

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[karenmeal 0]

Who says all of the jumps have to be full altitude?

I pay 8 dollars for a hop and pop... so 8 x 500 = 4,000.

Thats not bad at all!

-Karen

p.s. Not too many DZ's give free jumps to their employees.

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[jasonRose 0]

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Who says all of the jumps have to be full altitude?

I pay 8 dollars for a hop and pop... so 8 x 500 = 4,000.

Thats not bad at all!

-Karen

p.s. Not too many DZ's give free jumps to their employees.

LOL Some would have to be full altitude just to meet the requirements.

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[eeneR 3]

I hate to break it to you but this sport is not cheep. The license numbers were increased to make the meaning of the D license fit a bit more with the rest of the world when it comes to ratings. The last thing that USPA is going to worry about when doing this is "oh no it is going to cost Johnny more money to get his D rating" They do it because they expect more from a jumper in order to hold that rating.

If there is no skill then there is no reason to give the license.

Yea doing 500 hop and pops is great, but then that jumper has no skill in Freefall...Same thing with doing nothing but 100's of solos. It is great, but that jumper has no clue what they are doing relative to others or if they are doing what ever they are trying right. For all they know they are backsliding across the sky.

I had the 200 jumps in before they changed it, just didnt have the chance to get my night jumps in for various reasons. I really dont care If I have my D or not, im more concerned with quality of the jumps I do, not the quantity.

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[jasonRose 0]

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Yea doing 500 hop and pops is great, but then that jumper has no skill in Freefall...Same thing with doing nothing but 100's of solos. It is great, but that jumper has no clue what they are doing relative to others or if they are doing what ever they are trying right. For all they know they are backsliding across the sky.

I had the 200 jumps in before they changed it, just didnt have the chance to get my night jumps in for various reasons. I really dont care If I have my D or not, im more concerned with quality of the jumps I do, not the quantity.

Ok don't take this the wrong way but here is a differn't perspective.
Instead of making a set amount jump numbers, make the testing extremeley difficult which would be tailored to a jump master. "Johny" Might still meet the requirements of the D license but he still might suck as a skydiver even with 500 jumps under his belt. Does that make sense? You cant tell me that someone that gets 500 jumps in a year or two is not going to be a differen't type of skydiver compared to someone that gets 500 jumps in 10 years.

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[eeneR 3]

Never said that wasnt the case. I was doing shit with less then 200 jumps that some people with 500 jumps couldnt do.

My point....200 jumps in most cases....does not make you a "master" skydiver.

The change was primarily made to make the US match the rest of the world. Most other organizations require 500 jumps for the "D" license.

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[andybr6 0]

Consider your self lucky if you wanted to get a 'D' here in the UK you would need over 1000 jumps.

So 1000 x £20 = £20,000

exchane rate being about $1.8 to the £

£20,000 x 1.8 = $36,000

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[jasonRose 0]

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Consider your self lucky if you wanted to get a 'D' here in the UK you would need over 1000 jumps.

So 1000 x £20 = £20,000

exchane rate being about $1.8 to the £

£20,000 x 1.8 = $36,000

Holy Crap BAT MAN!! Now you are talking down payment on a jump plane. I guess we have it good on this side

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[kallend 2,129]

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I wonder if they considered what it is going to cost some one to get there D license. It seems like there is a lot of people out there that have the low number D license I wish they would of held out for me. :)
500 jumps x $22.00 = $11000.00 bucks WOW

Unless you get a job at the DZ and jump for free.

Why do you need a "D license anyway? What privileges do you get that you don't have with a "C"?

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[skydiverek 63]

Some boogies require D license. I think night jumps and night records require it, too.

[eeneR 3]

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Some boogies require D license. I think night jumps and night records require it, too.

Dont need D to do night jumps...you need night jumps to get your D.

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[EvilLurker 2]

Heh..heh, I did my night jumps with an A license, but don't tell anybody.

[Kris 0]

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Some boogies require D license. I think night jumps and night records require it, too.

Like eeneR said, you can do Night Jumps with a B. As for boogies, most of those that required the D before now just require the C.

The US has always had it easy before in the license dept because the standards came from the days of rounds and small DZ's and was never changed to align with the rest of the world & changes in the sport until the last couple of years.

I got my D before the change, but if I didn't I wouldn't have worried about it. Having it doesn't change the way I jump or the fun I have in the sport.

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[f1shlips 2]

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Yea doing 500 hop and pops is great, but then that jumper has no skill in Freefall...

It's like people with 500 frefalls trying to do CRW. They couldn't dock to save their lives....

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[StevePhelps 0]

Maybe they figured out at 200 jumps you think you know it all and are a master jumper. At 500 jumps you realize you don't know jack and are just beginning to learn.

[Kris 0]

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Maybe they figured out at 200 jumps you think you know it all and are a master jumper. At 500 jumps you realize you don't know jack and are just beginning to learn.

And that right there is the best explanation I've heard yet.

Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and
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[pilotdave 0]

Skydiving doesn't cost $11,000. It costs every penny you will ever have! Unless you plan on quitting when you get a D license, you'll be spending a whole lot more than $11,000!

Dave

[kallend 2,129]

When you've got your "D", use your spare change to go for your pilot's license with instrument rating.

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[jasonRose 0]

Status among your bro's. AFF instructors need a D don't they???

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[Kris 0]

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Status among your bro's. AFF instructors need a D don't they???

Status? I could give a flying fuck what someone's license is. All I care about is if they're safe and can fly their slot. Methinks you might be in this sport for the wrong reasons if you really believe in that.

One can be an AFF-I with a C-license. The D is only required for Tandem and the PRO rating, I believe.

You've really got a lot of sand in your vagina over this one, don't you?

Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and
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[AndyMan 7]

Dude, licenses are not commodities that you 'buy' to get status.

They're priveleges that you earn.

Nobody with 200 jumps and a 'D' license ever got their AFF rating. Most AFF rating holders had 1000 jumps before they even THOUGHT about getting that rating. It's ironic that you brought up AFF jumps, because with the new requirements it's actually conceivable that a newly minted 'D' license holder might have the skills necesary to be an AFFI.

Nobody gives a rats ass what license you have.

I could have gotten mine when I had 200 jumps. I didn't. I got mine when I had 500, because it really isn't that important. I wanted people to know I was a good skydiver because of the skills I exhibited, not because of some silly card they gave me.

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[kallend 2,129]

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Status among your bro's. AFF instructors need a D don't they???

No, they need a "C" and 6 hours of freefall time.

A tandem rating needs 500 jumps, and a PRO rating needs 500 jumps, so the 500 needed for a "D won't hold you up any.

In fact there's no additional advantage to having a "D with 200 jumps over having a "C" with 200 jumps.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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I wonder if they considered what it is going to cost some one to get there D license. It seems like there is a lot of people out there that have the low number D license I wish they would of held out for me. :)
500 jumps x $22.00 = $11000.00 bucks WOW

The increasing costs of getting an A is something that may require concern, but D, not at all.

$11000 is what it costs to do 500 jumps (hahahah, ignoring so many other expenses), not to get the D. And if you're jumping that much, it's time to start buying in bulk - even for just 10 jump tickets you often save a couple bucks per.