Question about Jumping at higher elavations.

[jasonRose 0]

I currently jump at 500' ASL and rumor has it that lost prarie is 3700' ASL. I plan on attending the boogie but I would like to gather more info in regards to higher elavation skydiving so I am prepared prior to my arrival. My major concern is with landings and what to watch out for. I would prefer not to PLF the whole time I am up there if at all possible. Stand up landings are way nicer on your body.

Thanx
I have talked to some instructors at my DZ which was helpful but the more info I can get the better prepared I can be.

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[Tonto 1]

It should be like downsizing one size as a rough description.
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[Amazon 7]

Just think faster landings... I like to let my canopy fly in full throttle... and stage my flare and fly out the landing that seems to work the best for me.. and I get the best lift out of it. Your milage may vary.
When do you get there.... I will not be there till Tuesday but if you want I can video your landings.. that should help... a bit..

[jsaxton 0]

If you're worried about the fast landings, just wait until the afternoon when the wind picks up

[tdog 0]

I jumped back and forth between sea level and 5200' a lot between jumps 30 and 100 as I visited 4 different DZs... I learned at over 5000 feet MSL then went down to 0 in Puerto Rico and California for vacations and training camps...

I am not going to even think I am qualified enough to tell you how to fly differently at higher elevations, however I can tell you what I experienced... As soon as I came "home" the landings felt real fast... The key, for me, was to remain calm and fly instead of panic and say, "shit this is fast."

And, not that I recommend any changes (again, I am not an instructor nor seen you fly) but I found my flares to be too low/late at higher elevations when I returned home.

For the record, I have had my two worst landings (crashes) at sea level and all of my best at a mile high MSL, so it is how well you fly, not the altitude, that determines how well you land, in my experience.

[kelpdiver 2]

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For the record, I have had my two worst landings (crashes) at sea level and all of my best at a mile high MSL, so it is how well you fly, not the altitude, that determines how well you land, in my experience.

Were those at Elsinore or Perris? Not quite sea level, and definitely not in the summer. Weird air at Elsinore especially.

Your point still applies.

[nate_1979 9]

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Were those at Elsinore or Perris? Not quite sea level, and definitely not in the summer. Weird air at Elsinore especially.

You think elsinore is worse? I've always thought that elsinore had better winds than Perris, ... That's the reason I usually dont jump at Perris...

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[CanuckInUSA 0]

If there is no wind on a hot day, then yes your landings will be faster and you will have less flare than what you're used to. But looking at your profile I see that you're flying a sensible wing for your experience. So don't fret too much there bro. You should be fine and you'll have a blast jumping in Montana.

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[GravityGirl 0]

Jason,

Since you are downsizing already, things are gonna happen fast on the prairie.

You'll find less decision time in the pattern as well as faster landings.

Mind your altitude so you have the full time under canopy. Maybe do a couple of low key two ways to start off. Even a solo.

When you come in to land, embrace the speed. Let your canopy fly in full flight on final. A common mistake is to "milk the brakes". That's not cool. You'll compromise your lift. So remember, "Speed is your friend." "Speed is lift." LET IT FLY, to maximize your lift.

Feel free to call for a chat anytime.

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[jasonRose 0]

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Just think faster landings... I like to let my canopy fly in full throttle... and stage my flare and fly out the landing that seems to work the best for me.. and I get the best lift out of it. Your milage may vary.
When do you get there.... I will not be there till Tuesday but if you want I can video your landings.. that should help... a bit..

I am leaving thursday night after my last final for the last weekend of prarie and we should be there early Friday morning about 2:00 or 3:00 as long as every one going has there shit together.

Thanks for the advice and stay in one piece until I get there so you can shoot some vid of me in my red baron FF pants.

Some day I will have the best staff in the world!!!

[jasonRose 0]

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Jason,

Since you are downsizing already, things are gonna happen fast on the prairie.

You'll find less decision time in the pattern as well as faster landings.

Mind your altitude so you have the full time under canopy. Maybe do a couple of low key two ways to start off. Even a solo.

When you come in to land, embrace the speed. Let your canopy fly in full flight on final. A common mistake is to "milk the brakes". That's not cool. You'll compromise your lift. So remember, "Speed is your friend." "Speed is lift." LET IT FLY, to maximize your lift.

Feel free to call for a chat anytime.

ANY TIME??

Thanks for the advice. It sounds almost exactly like landing a plane, with out an engine of course.

Some day I will have the best staff in the world!!!

[BigSky 2]

Well if its any consolation, that is my home Dz and I have been PLFing almost all my landings, so at least you wont be the only one there doing it

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[DBCOOPER 5]

I've even seen the Golden Knights go rolling down the prairie...

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[billvon 3,111]

> My major concern is with landings and what to watch out for.

I recommend upsizing for the boogie. You will be going MUCH faster at that altitude, and LP has a poor landing area - mostly very stubbly weeds and bushes. To get a good landing up there, I generally have to use a cow path as a runway and plow through all the cowpies until I slide to a stop.

If you don't want to upsize, plan to do a lot of PLF's. You're more likely to hurt yourself trying to run out landings than PLFing.

[peckerhead 0]

Ah yes, the cowpies....

A few years back there was a record crop. Almost impossible not to land on one.

They were hard and crusty on the top and wet and gooey on the underside. It was like landing on banana peels. You think you are getting a stand up then you slide for a few feet and end up on your ass.

It gets even more interesting when it rains.

[BigSky 2]

I dont think there will be a cow pie issue this year. I havent seen cows out in the pasture once yet.

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[jasonRose 0]

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I dont think there will be a cow pie issue this year. I havent seen cows out in the pasture once yet.

Leave it to me if there is somthing to step in I am usualy the one doing it. You might see the first flying cow pie this year.

Some day I will have the best staff in the world!!!