airtwardo 7 #1 July 5, 2005 The latest Prachutist has an article about safety in the 60's...opening paragraph says something to the effect that 'back in the day' passing a baton was something that would get you an award. I turn on the news last week and there's a story with 20+ women setting a record...holding hands head down..wearing custom made brightly colored jumpsuits, parachutes 1/4 the size & weight of those used in the 60's...laser cut canopies flying faster than some of the jump birds used then. I say it's NOT ENOUGH! What ideas to push the envelope even farther, even FASTER... ~as far as the evolution of skydiving can we come up with? What would you like to see invented...tried...? Ideas???? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmetz 0 #2 July 5, 2005 How long will it be before someone lands a wingsuit?_________________________________________ "If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #3 July 5, 2005 QuoteHow long will it be before someone lands a wingsuit? *** Before we ALL are landing wingsuits?? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #4 July 5, 2005 How about 2 people strapped together under one parachute? Oops.. sorry, that's been done, huh? chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmetz 0 #5 July 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteHow long will it be before someone lands a wingsuit? *** Before we ALL are landing wingsuits?? Do you mean that it's already been done?_________________________________________ "If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwampThing 0 #6 July 5, 2005 Quote What would you like to see invented...tried...? *** A big cannon or sling shot like deal that could ground launch a group of jumpers. They could be doing RW on the way up AND on the way down! The Pessimist says: "It can't possibly get any worse!" The Optimist says: "Sure it can!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #7 July 5, 2005 Quote Do you mean that it's already been done? Quote Sure! Lots of times...ONCE! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #8 July 5, 2005 and not very gracefully either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #9 July 5, 2005 Think Star Trek Simply have Scotty or Chief O'Brian beam you to 14k......and hell.....no need for AAD's....as they will beam you out if passing 1k too fast.....just hope they dont go for coffee at that time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookncrater 0 #10 July 5, 2005 My vote is for high-G freefly as discussed quite some time ago here. 2 or more freeflyers with straps attaching each other doing high speed orbitz and spins, kinda like the NASA multi-axis trainer on crack, but in freefall. You could call it veeflying, as in vomit.________________________________________________________________________________ when in doubt... hook it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #11 July 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteHow long will it be before someone lands a wingsuit? QuoteDo you mean that it's already been done? Denis Livchenskiy accidentally "landed" a wingsuit (touched down before reaching line stretch) and lived. He was in the hospital for about a week. This was probably 4 years ago. As far as the original post? I'd like to see: (a) a 100% reliable parachute system (b) a parachute that opens in whatever direction the user designates at pull time (c) a parachute that always opens on heading (unless we can get b)-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #12 July 5, 2005 Well, I WOULD say that we should use big jumpsuits to get more freefall time, but, well, that's been done... I do think we will sometime approach the limit of the number of formations that a 4-way team can physically do in working time, and may have to change the rules for the top teams. Anyone remember 4-way speed star competition? That said, I can see more and more interesting hooked up freefly & hybrid formations. Most people just like jumping with other people, and I can easily see more back-facing ones and the like. Also some wingsuit/small canopy (C)RW. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #13 July 5, 2005 I'd like to see: (a) a 100% reliable parachute system *** And something different in many ways than today's... Single parachute system...smaller & lighter harness with a single surface canopy... how about a ground based aad system that would radar your alti-speed-seperation and send a opening signal. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #14 July 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow long will it be before someone lands a wingsuit? QuoteDo you mean that it's already been done? Denis Livchenskiy accidentally "landed" a wingsuit (touched down before reaching line stretch) and lived. He was in the hospital for about a week. This was probably 4 years ago. As far as the original post? I'd like to see: (a) a 100% reliable parachute system (b) a parachute that opens in whatever direction the user designates at pull time (c) a parachute that always opens on heading (unless we can get b) (d) a parachute that packs itselfillegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboydan 0 #15 July 5, 2005 A parachute that packs itself good idea. But how about a plane that runs off of water so the jump costs come down and we have more time jumps to push and find new ideals.johnnyboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #16 July 5, 2005 Development of a PD tandem reserve that will handle a rigged weight of 550 lbs, with no increase in opening forces or toggle pressure. Testing & certification of the Sigma tandem harness/container & passenger harness to handle a rigged weight of 550 lbs without a marked increase in fall rate (bigger drogue). Testing & certification of the current line of PD tandem main canopies to handle a rigged weight of 550 lbs. More to follow . . .Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman32 0 #17 July 6, 2005 A device that would prevent our skydive family members from dying before their time Inveniam Viam aut Faciam I'm back biatches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #18 July 6, 2005 QuoteA device that would prevent our skydive family members from dying before their time OMG.. Well, likes like someone is working on your dream device.. WTF is this crap lol.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=106980&item=7166579376&rd=1 FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #19 July 6, 2005 "Provides a solution to the situation within seconds" lol... sorry, this is just the dumbest crap I've ever seen.. and yes I know, clearly fake. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #20 July 6, 2005 There's also been at least three threads on it in the last month or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #21 July 6, 2005 yea? guess I missed them sorry FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 July 6, 2005 Quoteyea? guess I missed them sorry *** Yeah Nate! Tell 'em ya want internet access provided to you at work...then you wouldn't miss the good stuff! Hummm....can a Submarine GET internet access?? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #23 July 6, 2005 QuoteQuoteyea? guess I missed them sorry *** Yeah Nate! Tell 'em ya want internet access provided to you at work...then you wouldn't miss the good stuff! Hummm....can a Submarine GET internet access?? Nope, probably why I missed all of it FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #24 July 6, 2005 Quotehow about a ground based aad system that would radar your alti-speed-seperation and send a opening signal. Just mount lasers on the skydiver to continuously monitor the exact distance to the ground, and hook it up to an AAD, or put radio transmitters on the ground to let an AAD calculate its position relative to the ground plane, or... Seriously, AADs could easily be developed far beyond what we have seen today. I think we may see a leap in developement of altimeters, and at some point someone will put it in an AAD.HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #25 July 6, 2005 We have airbags in steering wheels. Now they're in B pillars, doors and in roofs too. There's talk of putting them in bonnets to protect pedestrians. I've even seen an invention that puts them inside NFL helmets so that when they get a bad tackle to the head a neck brace inflates to prevent a neck injury... Maybe one day we'll see top swoopers with airbag swoop pants, triggered by a radar device which senses them going into the corner. Maybe "femur" will cease to be a verb in our sport? On one hand that seems pretty extreme... but then most whuffos are shocked as hell to learn we have £1000 worth of computer in our rigs which fires an explosively propelled razor blade to deploy our reserve if we're passing through 750ft faster than 78mph. Another one, which is already on the way in, is in air comms. I've just found myself an FF coach who is starting to use in air comms to train people. He said it's amazing and as clear as two people speaking on the ground. I understand some schools have just started trialing it for AFF students as well as some pro 4 way teams using it for training. This is going to be a huge advance and it's on its way in fast. On more (although rather more frivolous) will be air to ground live video feed (by that I mean reliable and commonplace as I realize it's already been done). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
