AFF level(s) you had to repeat?

[BenediktDE 2]

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No repeats, nearly had to repeat Level3 because my legs were spread to much and therefore I did not fall very stable but did all I had to do.
Level4 was then OK again.

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You don’t “fail” a student training jump, you simply did not achieve all the goals you had set for that jump.

An I failed to achieve all the goals set for a jump after AFF very often. (RW-Training)

For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.

[apley 0]

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My concern with this and several similar threads is this constant fixation I see here with students thinking they “failed” an AFF level. I wish to hell students would stop thinking in terms of “success” or “failure” on their training jumps. Training is just that – training, a learning process. With the possible exception of a license check dive (and maybe even not there, either), there is no “failure” in a student jump, unless you femur or bounce or hurt or endanger someone else. “I was devastated...”; “I was mortified...”; “I failed AFF-4!!!”. Sorry, but that’s not the right mentality. You don’t “fail” a student training jump, you simply did not achieve all the goals you had set for that jump. But you’re still jumping; you’re still learning; you’re still getting experience being in that new medium – the sky. Different people take different amounts of time to train for anything new. This is the greatest time of your life. Enjoy it!

bravo! spoken like a great coach.

i repeated level 4 SIX times. level 3 TWICE, and i forget the others.... all in all, AFF took me 16 jumps. i never once felt like i was failing. i demanded that i repeat one of those jumps, as a matter of fact, when the instructor was willing to "pass" me on to the next level.

this is incredibly FUN, but dangerous, too. i knew that from the beginning, and i know it now. i repeat jumps all the time now as an experienced jumper. i learn something from EVERY jump. i'm very conservative, and a little timid in groups, but i think i understand the dangers, and that takes some concentration, and occassionally, failure, to achieve a goal.

i'm a coach now, and occassionally have a disappointing jump that i beg the student to allow me to repeat... at no charge, of course. i will always be a student in this sport. it keeps me alive.

[Rettrae 0]

I also had trouble with level 3. I had a hard time relaxing my body so I could do the 90 degree turns. The first time, I froze up and wobbled with my JM, lost altitude awareness and she pulled for me, the second time, I went into a "reverse frog" where my knees bent and my hips went up instead of down, causing me to be unable turn. Went to the Perris wind tunnel, learned a lot in 10 minutes there, and have been doing very well ever since!!!!!!! on to level 6

[helxen 0]

Repeated level 1, mostly because there was about a year delay between tandem and this jump.
2nd 1st level went smoothly as well, as the rest of AFF.

[RossDagley 0]

I've just finished AFF at DeLand.

I started AFF at level 4 (single instructor, released as soon as stable). Had to repeat level 6 as couldn't recover promptly from my backflip (THAT never happened in the tunnel )

The downside to skipping levels or graduating AFF so quickly was my landing pattern sucked compared with other recent graduates (some other guys on my course graduated after completing >15 jumps compared to my 5 and could actually land in the right area ) - I moved on to do Scott Millers course the next week, and at least I'm more confident and a touch more accurate now

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[popsjumper 2]

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...I’m not going to argue semantics. This isn’t about semantics, it’s about attitude.....

Good stuff, Andy908....I like the positive attitude approach.....it's so discouraging to the students to be told "You failed."

For you others, check the IRM for instructional ratings and throughout you will see the positive-attitude approach encouraged and reinforced.

Though I didn't need to repeat any AFF levels, I certainly came out of the progression with a feeling that, "Hey, I can do this" - thanks to my instructors who all were very supportive and had the positive attitude.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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