sarah8760 0 #1 August 30, 2005 got a question--how many line twists is too many? On my first jump (aff level 1) about a week ago i had several line twists, but i knew that i could fix it...and i did, but it was twisted around about 4 or 5 times. it didn't take very long to fix the problem, and i was still pretty high up, so i wasn't going to cut my main and pull my reserve. should i have pulled the reserve or was i right in fixing the twists?...everything ended up fine after i got them untwisted, "The brave may not live forever, but the cautious do not live at all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #2 August 30, 2005 A fellow AFF student at my DZ has line twists on his level 8 hop n pop, he thought it done about 7 or 8 full turns and he fixed it. Please correct me if im wrong but im sure that the bigger canopy's tend to recover better from line twists where as the smaller elliptecal(?) ones can go into a really nasty spin and put you through some trouble resulting in a chop. Your instructors have trained you and you landed fine without panic by the sounds of things, so it was obviously a good call. Congrats on your first jump 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joebud321 0 #3 August 30, 2005 id say u made the right call!!......if u have the altitude and ur canopys flying ok...and ur airspace is clear u can prob spend more time on them.... when u havent ....then its gota go!!!.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #4 August 30, 2005 Quotehow many line twists is too many? When YOU decide YOU can't safely control or land the canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #5 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuotehow many line twists is too many? When YOU decide YOU can't safely control or land the canopy. At the very latest, if you reach your "hard deck" altitude (ask your instructor what that is) without a canopy that's controllable and landable, get rid of it. Roger Nelson's Golden Rules: 1. Land safely under an open canopy. 2. Land safe, not close. - If you think you can make it to a convenient area, but you know you can make it to a larger, safer area, go for the safer area and the longer walk. 3. Leave room for error. - Stuff happens up there. 4. Stay ahead of the jump. - Know what's supposed to happen next - 5. Always have a plan. - and know what to do about it - 6. Never give up. - and don't stop skydiving if something else happens instead, "It isn't over 'til it's over. " 7. Know your altitude. - All the time 8. Know when to say "no". - It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarah8760 0 #6 August 30, 2005 I felt completely in control, and I did still have the altitude on my side. so thanks, i feel better. "The brave may not live forever, but the cautious do not live at all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #7 August 30, 2005 This is all second-hand information, I'm not experienced enough to make my own recommendations here. What I've been told [and seen] is that a canopy the size that you're probably jumping... .85:1 or so... will handle a good amount of line twists without starting to spin. Considering that you're probably under canopy by about 4,200 feet, you have a lot of time to your hard deck [mine is 2,500] to kick the twists out. If you find the canopy diving for the earth and you're spinning under it, chop it. Again, on a canopy that size, it's probably not going to happen. It becomes a judgement call. Lets say you get under canopy and you have a buttload of line twists. The canopy has shape, isn't spinning and is floating along nicely... kick them out. You hit 2,500 [or your hard deck] and only have a few twists left... cut away. It doesn't matter if you're 100 feet from glory, a hard deck is a hard deck.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites