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While I was at Perris for JFTC we were getting 16,500. I was told that was the highest we were allowed due to an issue with other aircrafts or some thing like that.
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Im only on AFF4 so if this question seems ridiculous please bare with me. What is the maximum exit altitude for the average skydiver, particularly in California; Perris to be exact. I know deployment altitude varies with license class does it vary with exit alt. also?



max for the average makes the question a bit fuzzy.

A lot of Cal DZs go 14-15k for their normal operations. Perris and Elsinore do the same, measured by MSL, not AGL. Downside of DZ elevation being close to 1500.

Many DZs will do flights to 18k daily, and some less frequently for special events. The SIM (sec 6-7) recommends a B/100jumps for 15-20k, but in practice seems that an A is considered acceptable by DZs.

Hollister does a number of 24k runs in the summer, wants a B minimum. Skydance does 24 and 30k at least once a year, may want a D for 30k and definitely flight training. SIM recommends C license above 20k. Closer to you, I recall that Taft was doing 23k loads in the early spring when the Mullins King Air was there.

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Consider FAA requirements for oxygen use and availability (91.211):

Above 12,500 feet MSL a pilot must use oxygen for that part of the flight in excess of 30 minutes. Not much of a concern for contemporary turbine operations, but it can be a factor with Cessna jumps.

Above 14,000 feet MSL the pilot must use oxygen continuously. This regulation is often violated.

Above 15,000 feet MSL the passengers (jumpers) must be provided with oxygen. They don't need to use it, but it must be available. Most record attempts and organized jumps to higher altitudes include oxygen, but sometimes those 'push the pilot' jumps don't.
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I've found that 13,000-13,500 AGL is my average at Perris. The lowest I've gotten out was about 12,500 AGL on the second pass.

As was said earlier in the thread, Perris is about 1,500 feet above sea level... so any higher would require oxygen. I was there for the POPS 110-way and JFTC and [as was previously mentioned] oxygen was used in the planes on those days [for those jumps]. The rest of the day, fun jumpers got out at the usual 13,500 w/o oxygen. The presence of the supplemental oxygen systems in the plane was only for the big ways.

Maybe they get out higher on different occasions -- look at my jump numbers, I'm not experienced -- but 13,000-13,500 is what I've found is normal at Perris.
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In Perris exit altitudes are usually 12,500 AGL, with sunset loads sometimes going to 13,500 AGL.

Any Higher than 15,000 MSL you'll need to have suplimenta O2 avaliable on the A/C.
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In Perris exit altitudes are usually 12,500 AGL, with sunset loads sometimes going to 13,500 AGL.

Any Higher than 15,000 MSL you'll need to have suplimenta O2 avaliable on the A/C.



Thanks for responding to the 'Perris info' that others have given. I read MB38's post and thought, "Huh? My altimeter must be reading wrong every week...;)"

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I was told that was the highest we were allowed due to an issue with other aircrafts or some thing like that.



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While I was at Perris for JFTC we were getting 16,500. I was told that was the highest we were allowed due to an issue with other aircrafts or some thing like that.



16500agl is around 18,000msl at Perris, which is the highest you can go without special clearance into the Class A airspace from Air Traffic Control (and which is not trivially easy to get for a formation flight returning to its airport of origin)
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In Perris exit altitudes are usually 12,500 AGL, with sunset loads sometimes going to 13,500 AGL.

Any Higher than 15,000 MSL you'll need to have suplimenta O2 avaliable on the A/C.



Thanks for responding to the 'Perris info' that others have given. I read MB38's post and thought, "Huh? My altimeter must be reading wrong every week...;)"

ltdiver

:o Now I'm thinking mine is.
I really don't know what I'm talking about.

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