flyhi 24 #1 November 20, 2005 Thought I would post an incident that happened yesterday for the info of all. Upon opening, I usually stow the slider, then open the visor of my Z1 and push it up, out of the way. Yesterday I did all of that and made a riser turn to final. At the bottom of the approach, the canopy planed out and I started my toggle application. I realize now, my first move is down with the toggles, then back. During the approach yesterday, I did just that and the right brake line snagged between the visor and the helmet just as I started to move my arms back. It locked in pretty well. The momentum of toggle application meant I continued to apply a little more left than right which started a left turn low to the ground. I was almost able to run it out, Almost is always funny. Bruised pride and slightly damaged ego was all that happened. Tried to consider the worst case for such a scenario and decided that using toggles to turn to final or someone a little nervous in the air (newby or new canopy?) who had this happen at 900-ish feet (ill-advised low chop?) could be the worst. Anyway, it happened and thought I would share. And Airspeed makes it look so easy. I hate those guys!Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #2 November 20, 2005 Thank for your warning! I do keep my break lines away from my helmet if my visor is open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #3 November 20, 2005 Break lines or Brake lines? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #4 November 20, 2005 When I got my Z1 that is something I worried about, so I got out the Dremel tool and "adjusted" the visor around the hinge area so lines couldn't get in there so easily. Never had an actual problem but it was still a concern. Finally solved the problem by winning an OXYGN in a raffle.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #5 November 21, 2005 Yes,adios Z-1! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #6 November 21, 2005 QuoteYes,adios Z-1! Why you got one you want to give me? Still with out a helmet. Mine took an early retirement without my permission, oh well it was only about 9 years old.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #7 November 21, 2005 Quote When I got my Z1 that is something I worried about, so I got out the Dremel tool and "adjusted" the visor around the hinge area so lines couldn't get in there so easily. Is it possible to get a pic or a more detailed description on what you did. Sounds like a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 November 21, 2005 Do you loosen your chest strap? I've got a hard time seeing that happening if your risers are pretty wide....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #9 November 21, 2005 QuoteDo you loosen your chest strap? I've got a hard time seeing that happening if your risers are pretty wide.... I was thinking something like that too. I have a ton of jumps on my last one. I have seen a moveable ring site that was moved over to the side and catch a riser on landing but that was an easy fix. He walked away btw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #10 November 21, 2005 can you please describe in a more precise manner what moves you made to get a line in there ?? not saying it can't happen/it won't happen to me... Just have problems imagining. good job "almost'ing" the landing.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #11 November 22, 2005 QuoteDo you loosen your chest strap? I've got a hard time seeing that happening if your risers are pretty wide.... I loosen my chest strap as much as possible without fully disengaging it. I purchased the rig about six years ago and did not even consider an extra long chest strap. One of the first options on the next rig. Quotecan you please describe in a more precise manner what moves you made to get a line in there ?? I am thinking one or two of my actions allowed me to get close enough to the line to snag it. The first is after the plane out, I usually lean forward in the harness (for the efficacy of that maneuver, see the thread in the Swooping forum) as far and as rapidly as the situation dictates. I also use harness input to carve a little (< 90 degrees) at the bottom. I believe either one or both of these events allowed the brake line to initially get close to the visor and then the toggle application locked it in.Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
