Skydivers Should Oppose ADIZ

[kallend 2,147]

Making the ADIZ permanent, as proposed by the FAA, will eventually cause huge problems for general aviation (which includes skydiving).

FAA has extended the comment period - if you haven't already sent in a comment, you can still do it
The easiest way is to go to AOPA's site www.aopa.org/adizalert/ and click on the links there.




From the USPA web site:
Skydivers Should Oppose ADIZ (10/21/05)

The FAA is taking comments on a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) that would make permanent the temporary Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) around Washington, D.C. USPA members are urged to submit comments in opposition to the proposal by the deadline.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[diverdriver 7]

What DZ would it effect? Any? Why oppose it? I guess I don't see the why yet.

Chris Schindler
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FB #4125

[mjosparky 4]

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What DZ would it effect? Any? Why oppose it? I guess I don't see the why yet.

The more airspace the restrict the less is open to fly in. Where do you draw the line. We both know that it does not make the White House any safer from someone fling a C-150 full of "bang".

Sparky

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[pilotdave 0]

The asshole mayor of chicago has already asked for his own ADIZ to protect that city. Others will follow. This just sets precedent.

I've flown in the DC ADIZ. It is a pain in the ass... not as bad as flight in the FRZ (closer to DC), but an ADIZ could easily shut down a DZ unless they could get a waiver or something.

Not sure if it's changed since I last flew in the DC area, but when I did it, I had to get a clearance and transponder code by phone from the approach control, then immediately call them on the radio after takeoff. I also had to file a flight plan to leave the airport and a second flight plan to return. It was impossible to take off, fly around for a while, then return. I had to land at an airport outside the ADIZ, file a flight plan, call the approach control for a transponder code and clearance, then contact them again from the air before entering the airspace.

Dave

[kenneth21441 0]

Still cant understand all of this after over four years. Some time ago before 9-11-2001 I used to travel in the US and saw all these signs about unsafe airports in other nations. When in the US you could do what you wanted: that was our own weakness and they took to it like white on rice.

But in other countires they used to go through my bags and also a basic interagation (like where I am from, job etc....)


Now for the FAA to further allow restrictions is plan nuts. They need to look into what we have in this country already and take care of that issue along with a better check of cargo/ freight ac.

Just my two cents here.

thanks

Kenneth Potter
FAA Senior Parachute Rigger
Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA)
FFL Gunsmith

[kallend 2,147]

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What DZ would it effect? Any? Why oppose it? I guess I don't see the why yet.

Maybe this will make it clearer:

One cold night, as an Arab sat in his tent, a camel gently thrust his nose under the flap and looked in. "Master," he said, "let me put my nose in your tent. It's cold and stormy out here." "By all means," said the Arab, "and welcome" as he turned over and went to sleep.

A little later the Arab awoke to find that the camel had not only put his nose in the tent but his head and neck also. The camel, who had been turning his head from side to side, said, "I will take but little more room if I place my forelegs within the tent. It is difficult standing out here." "Yes, you may put your forelegs within," said the Arab, moving a little to make room, for the tent was small.

Finally, the camel said, "May I not stand wholly inside? I keep the tent open by standing as I do." "Yes, yes," said the Arab. "Come wholly inside. Perhaps it will be better for both of us." So the camel crowded in. The Arab with difficulty in the crowded quarters again went to sleep. When he woke up the next time, he was outside in the cold and the camel had the tent to himself.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[brianfry713 0]

There was a long article about it in Skydiving magazine a few months ago telling us all to opposite it and what to say in the online form. I'd rather not get shot down if a plane I was in accidently ventured into the wrong airspace.

BASE 1224, Senior Parachute Rigger, CPL ASEL IA, AGI, IGI
USPA Coach & UPT Tandem Instructor, PRO, Altimaster Field Support Representative

[Broke 0]

Good find

The ADIZ was created over a weekend in February 2003 as a "temporary" response to a heightened terrorist threat level.

The ADIZ encompasses 19 public-use airports, more than 10,000 pilots, and 2,147 based aircraft accounting for nearly 900,000 operations per year.

It restricts GA from the ground to 18,000 feet in an area almost 40 miles around Washington, D.C.

The FAA has tracked more than 2,000 ADIZ violations since 2003. None have been terrorist related and all but one have been inadvertent.

ADIZ operations cost the FAA $11 million per year.

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[BASE1036 0]

Goes to show if the Arab would yeild to modern marvels, he would have had a car and a house, not a tent and a camel.....

Daniel
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[kallend 2,147]

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Goes to show if the Arab would yeild to modern marvels, he would have had a car and a house, not a tent and a camel.....

He was on a camping vacation.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.