moth 0 #1 January 7, 2006 does anyone know what the cost is this year? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #2 January 7, 2006 Sadly not, but I also would be interested as it will be the first time I would have had to buy one. Waiting eagerly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytash 0 #3 January 8, 2006 It is proposed and approved at the AGM (21st Jan) until then we won't know. tash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #4 January 8, 2006 I heard a rumour (so don't take it as any more than that!) that BPA membership was going to increase by £1 this year. Fingers crossed that is true! Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #5 January 8, 2006 In order to continue receiving a UK Sport grant (which dwindled to £12,600 for 2006/2007 and may be the last grant we ever receive, from item 61.2), we are required to increase the BPA part (i.e. not insurance or magazine) of our membership fees, which is usually done in line with inflation (currently 2.1%). Last year's increase was 96p (from item 3), so assuming the insurance component hasn't increased, the rumour you heard may be correct.Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #6 January 8, 2006 how much will the membership fee be?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #7 January 8, 2006 If the rumours I've heard are rightt, £1 more than last year - so (off the top of my head) £112.60. Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #8 January 8, 2006 WHAT !!!!!!!!! do you have to be a member of the BPA? what do i get for my money?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #9 January 8, 2006 Quotedo you have to be a member of the BPA? If you want to jump at any UK DZ - yes. Quotewhat do i get for my money? 3rd party insurance of (again off the top of my head) £2 million in the UK, and a pointless, lesser amount abroad, but not US or Canada (i.e. if jumping abroad, you need other 3rd party insurance - most travel policies have this). YOu also get 6 magazines per year. Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #10 January 8, 2006 lets not forget the membership card printed on someones desk jet printer...Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gremlin 0 #11 January 8, 2006 I think that it is a shame that we cannot separate the BPA membership from the insurance component. The BPA are currently under threat of getting taken to the European court for their illegal insurance stance (not allowing other 3rd party insurance at BPA dzs) and overseas cover is not worth the paper it is written on, coverage is well below the European minimum coverage limit. We could then address what the BPA spends its money on - expenses - discipline boards which get repeatedly overturned and safety campaigns which no-one uderstands (corners kill???) Thankfully the BPA don't control the windtunnels. Jump abroad and spend the membership money on tunnel time.I'm drunk, you're drunk, lets go back to mine.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #12 January 8, 2006 Quotelets not forget the membership card printed on someones desk jet printer... .....and the plastic sleeve you get for it, or do you just get that when you first join and have to re-use it every year? ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #13 January 9, 2006 QuoteQuotedo you have to be a member of the BPA? If you want to jump at any UK DZ - yes. Quotewhat do i get for my money? 3rd party insurance of (again off the top of my head) £2 million in the UK, and a pointless, lesser amount abroad, but not US or Canada (i.e. if jumping abroad, you need other 3rd party insurance - most travel policies have this). YOu also get 6 magazines per year. Vicki 6 magazines a year... worth about 20 quid then !!!!! and insurance? incase i drop on somebodies head and kill them? great... that'll help the dead person claim against me. I'll defend that from my coffin shall i? why can't i jump at a British DZ if i'm not a paid up member of the BPA? isn't that a monopoly? are they allowed to do that? they should wear highway masks, the robbing bastards________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyDicky 0 #14 January 9, 2006 Quote 6 magazines a year... worth about 20 quid then !!!!! Yup, and you cant opt out either. Annoys some people Quote and insurance? incase i drop on somebodies head and kill them? great... that'll help the dead person claim against me. I'll defend that from my coffin shall i? why can't i jump at a British DZ if i'm not a paid up member of the BPA? isn't that a monopoly? are they allowed to do that? they should wear highway masks, the robbing bastards Yup, its pretty poor. Apparently only 1 insurer will insure the BPA at that level. Its been asked why cant we lower the limit and/or do what germany does. In germany, I think they have only about 1m euro cover, but they get full worldwide cover too (incl. US & canada) and they only pay 45e/year which covers membership AND insurance. Then this goes down after a few years like a no claims bonus. But then instructors pay a much larger premium of a few hundred euros/year, but when they're being paid to instruct, this cost should be at least covered by what you get paid. Germany they dont have the litiguous society like US/UK. If you did your first jump and broke your ankle, unless it can be proved to be the fault of someone else (the only real way would be to prove bad training) you cant claim anything like time off work or whatever. In the UK this happens and they claim, only for the insurers to pay out straight away. Madness. UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virginflyer3 0 #15 January 9, 2006 And when do you have to get your membership if you are a student? How long does the process take to apply? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #16 January 9, 2006 Certainly sounds like a monoply. Rather than landing on someones head, I think of landing on someones roof or tractor at full whack and wrecking it... OK that might not need the full cover offered but I sure as hell dont have 40 odd grand to pay for a new John Deere in my account when im gone. Is damn expensive though But think of those people that get told to take up golf. Do you know how much that costs at some clubs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #17 January 9, 2006 just a thought.... all those who run the BPA, do they go on over seas trips that are paid for by the BPA? Are there any audited sets of accounts for people to look at to see where they spend the money?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #18 January 9, 2006 Quoteall those who run the BPA, do they go on over seas trips that are paid for by the BPA? I don't think so - certainly not as far as I'm aware anyway! QuoteAre there any audited sets of accounts for people to look at to see where they spend the money? There are accounts sent out to members once a year but they are super vague. e.g. (from memory) various staff salaries come under the safety budget etc... Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #19 January 9, 2006 I might write to the BPA asking if i can see a set of the accounts should i address my letter to Dick Turpin? ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adriandavies 0 #20 January 9, 2006 QuoteIn order to continue receiving a UK Sport grant (which dwindled to £12,600 for 2006/2007 and may be the last grant we ever receive, from item 61.2), we are required to increase the BPA part (i.e. not insurance or magazine) of our membership fees, which is usually done in line with inflation (currently 2.1%). Last year's increase was 96p (from item 3), so assuming the insurance component hasn't increased, the rumour you heard may be correct. Does anyone else find it odd that the BPA may be about to ask its members to pay for something which the BPA might not receive? I know thta it might only be asking for £1 per person but the BPA does have a large contingency fund so surely it could pay the £5000 from that and then next year ask us to pay in arrears extra for the funding? At least by then we would know that we been given the funding. The insurance issue has has also proved perplexing to me. I though the EU was now one big market so a supplier from one country could supply it services in another one. If that is the case why can't a German compnay cover our insurance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #21 January 9, 2006 i find that a bit odd too what i find even more odd is that my £114 seems to get me a magazine (not knocking it, but only 6 per year ) and some insurance that i'm not allowed to shop round for and get myself the best deal on apart from those two items...what else do i get for my money?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grosfion 0 #22 January 9, 2006 Quoteapart from those two items...what else do i get for my money? the right to jump on a BPA affiliated DZ.. sorry could not hold it... blues Marcus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #23 January 9, 2006 If you are interested in finding out what the BPA does, you could start by looking here: http://www.bpa.org.uk/council_matters.htm and here: http://www.bpa.org.uk/historicalminutes.htm Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
