Silverchic 0 #1 January 26, 2006 I'm just about to go on a holidy in New Zealand (based around where the dz's are of course!) and have been calling some of the dz's just to check a few things out and one of them - a mainly tandem outfit - said they love to have fun jumpers come and jump but they charge an orientation fee (of $70 or $80!!!) to show you around the dz and check your gear!!! Has anyone found this before? I have never heard of it before this!How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #2 January 26, 2006 I hope they kiss you after they f@#K you "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #3 January 26, 2006 What a ripoff! I only charge $25 and that includes free, um, stuff too.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverchic 0 #4 January 26, 2006 That's what I thought! Needless to say I won't be going there to jump - because they charge you jump fees on top of that! I'd pay $80 for orientation and a nice high jump (and hopefully a beer at the end of it) and think the price was a little steep but still pay because apparently the views at this place are spectacular... A tandem would almost be cheaper! How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #5 January 26, 2006 Dang! And all these years I have been giving "visiting jumper" briefings for free. Since they never appeared on my pay check, I am beginning to wonder how much my boss was charging. I never mentioned charging anything more than rig rental and jump tickets. What have I been missing all these years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
btucker 0 #6 January 26, 2006 Your going to charge me to become a customer? I hope you can split the fee between a group of people and that the instructor who conducts the exercise gets a decent cut. That wouldn't be completely unfair. If you frap in, do you need to pay the the DZSO to fill out the incident report? Which I sincerely hope will not occur - happy holiday, tops place Have a great time. Blue Dreams Benno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #7 January 26, 2006 Do you kiss the cow after milking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #8 January 26, 2006 QuoteDo you kiss the cow after milking? Are you suggesting that the fee they are charging is justified?"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #9 January 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteDo you kiss the cow after milking? Are you suggesting that the fee they are charging is justified? I am pretty sure he was agreeing with you. "milking something for all its worth" and all that.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #10 January 26, 2006 The 15 or 20 minutes spent briefing a visiting jumper might save me 15 or 20 hours filling out accident reports. Hint! I am lazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #11 January 26, 2006 QuoteThe 15 or 20 minutes spent briefing a visiting jumper might save me 15 or 20 hours filling out accident reports. Well, if it comes down to math, then you're implying it's worth giving briefings only if it prevents 1 accident every 60 visiting jumpers or so. I'd be willing to bet that visiting fun jumpers would have a better rate than that even if you didn't point out the landmarks, Farmer McNasty field, and snack stand. So it sounds like briefings are a waste of time. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #12 January 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteDo you kiss the cow after milking? Are you suggesting that the fee they are charging is justified? Why does everyone complain about people overcharging? Just don't go, and don't pay. And you don't kiss the cow after milking, you dip the teats in balm. Everyone knows that. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #13 January 26, 2006 I think I don't have to explain you how is it feel being milked and being a guest/visitor. I've jump places with diffrent jump tickets rates for club members or even for the clubs inner circle. I don't like this kind of policy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #14 January 26, 2006 Quotemainly tandem outfit... they charge an orientation fee (of $70 or $80!!!) What a coincidence; that's also about the difference in money they would make from your slot on the airplane if it was a tandem instead of you. Hmmm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 January 26, 2006 QuoteI think I don't have to explain you how is it feel being milked and being a guest/visitor. I've jump places with diffrent jump tickets rates for club members or even for the clubs inner circle. I don't like this kind of policy. Billvon and I went round and round on this. I am on your side, but I think a DZO can do whatever he wants as long as he lives with the consequences of his decisions. Bottom line, if you don't like them charging you to supplement their buddies, don't give them your business. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #16 January 26, 2006 JohnRich pretty much said it... but what the heck... I'll pile on too... Quote...one of them - a mainly tandem outfit - said they love to have fun jumpers come and jump but they charge an orientation fee (of $70 or $80!!!)... Pretty much sounds like their way of saying they don't want to deal with up-jumpers... they just want the money and less bother from their "tandem factory" ops. Find another DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #17 January 27, 2006 Quote Billvon and I went round and round on this. I am on your side, but I think a DZO can do whatever he wants as long as he lives with the consequences of his decisions. Bottom line, if you don't like them charging you to supplement their buddies, don't give them your business. I think I'll tend to your side, so long as this isn't a surprise fee demanded when the person arrives. Since it was clearly expressed to Silverchic (who wisely called ahead), it's 'fair,' though the logical conclusion is she will go elsewhere. Maybe one redeeming value to Skydive Las Vegas is that they don't pretend that they don't hate upjumpers. They just don't allow them at all, rather than put out some nuisance fees. It's no fun jumping at a tandem mill that doesn't want you, better to be saved the lost time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverchic 0 #18 January 27, 2006 I have pretty much called ahead to all the dz's I want to go to - I was expecting a bit of concern over my rig vs jump numbers so I didn't want to travel to a dz just to find out that I can't jump there or I have to hire gear. And I would rather not hire gear (not just for the $ factor either). I would prefer to be on a rig I know so that I can put more of my concentration into the more important things and not have to worry about learning new flare point etc etc. But on the original subject: I was just a bit surprised - they openly stated they love having sport jumpers there etc etc but then they throw on a $70 charge just to show you around... No I've decided the views from 12,000ft are NOT worth a $105 jump!How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 January 27, 2006 btw, which dollar are we talking about here? AUS, NZ, or USD? Don't think it changes the feelings too much, but it might not be quite as steep as some of us think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverchic 0 #20 January 27, 2006 Sorry, this is $NZ which at the moment is so close to $AUD that I didn't bother to make the distinction. But for you guys in the US then it probably wouldn't sound as shocking! How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 January 27, 2006 So that makes it $54USD, which in the universal currency (jump tickets) = 2.5 jumps. It's only $25NZ there? Then it's a bit over 3 there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darrenspooner 0 #22 January 30, 2006 And do they take the money before they put their dick in your arse or after? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
