RossDagley 0 #51 February 22, 2006 And remember thats *five* people pulling low - the vidiot seems mildly surprised to see the ground quite so close too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #52 February 22, 2006 yep for sure.. and HE was the one looking at the ground scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aykay 0 #53 February 22, 2006 Has anyone considered the 5th team member on a 4 way? What about your camera guy? I dont fly camera so im not 100% sure if theyre over the top or just off the side but pulling 1st in a 4way might get you a nice close up on the day tape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #54 February 23, 2006 Quote Has anyone considered the 5th team member on a 4 way? What about your camera guy? Does your Cypres consider the position of your camera person? When you are below 1000 ft in freefall, without a cypres (I don't have one) you are dead if you turn and track. I guess when we talk about "low" we have differing thoughts as to what that is. For me, it's sub 1000 ft in freefall at terminal, because I've been there (stupidly) both intentionally and unintentionally. In this sport, above all else, we are responsible for our own safety first. If everyone looked after themselves, everyone would be OK. For a camera person to be staring at a 4 way with the ground looming at 1000 ft is unthinkable. In fact, I can't recall a single incident of this scenario developing. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #55 February 23, 2006 Quote For a camera person to be staring at a 4 way with the ground looming at 1000 ft is unthinkable. In fact, I can't recall a single incident of this scenario developing. The video on Airtec's site of the four-way going low is from the perspective of a camera person. To a viewer sitting at his computer watching it, the ground looks enormous. Apparently it didn't look the same in freefall [i.e. he was watching the subjects]... so I guess it can/has happen/happened. Luckily for everybody involved [as previously discussed] the 4-way tracked to cypres fire, quite possibly saving all five lives. If all 3 cypreses [only 3 had them] fired in formation into the face of the cameraman... well. VideoI really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #56 February 23, 2006 watch the video again, you'll see it's a 4wayscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #57 February 23, 2006 Quote watch the video again, you'll see it's a 4wayMy mistake, i was editing while you posted that.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflysmiley 2 #58 February 23, 2006 Quote Quote Has anyone considered the 5th team member on a 4 way? What about your camera guy? Does your Cypres consider the position of your camera person? When you are below 1000 ft in freefall, without a cypres (I don't have one) you are dead if you turn and track. I guess when we talk about "low" we have differing thoughts as to what that is. For me, it's sub 1000 ft in freefall at terminal, because I've been there (stupidly) both intentionally and unintentionally. Quote In this sport, above all else, we are responsible for our own safety first. If everyone looked after themselves, everyone would be OK. For a camera person to be staring at a 4 way with the ground looming at 1000 ft is unthinkable. In fact, I can't recall a single incident of this scenario developing. t check the video dude. The camera guy's watching them all the way, and has a two out himself!-------------------------------------------------- Practise the 6 P's! -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #59 February 24, 2006 I guess when we talk about "low" we have differing thoughts as to what that is. For me, it's sub 1000 ft in freefall at terminal, because I've been there (stupidly) both intentionally and unintentionally. (quote) Ditto, you know you low when you can hear people on the ground counting your fingers, and your still in freefall. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites