thesaint 0 #1 April 4, 2006 Last Sunday I did my first Coach jump. Yes I bought my Beer. I am sooooo hyped about going skydiving and getting paid to do it! "If a thousand people agree on a dumb ideal, it's STILL a dumb ideal." Skully Bro #1 - POPS# 10440 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnacrazywoman 0 #2 April 4, 2006 I do all my coach jumps for free. I just have my student pay for their ticket. BN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floats18 0 #3 April 4, 2006 --- and give them wings so they may fly free forever DiverDriver in Training Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #4 April 4, 2006 It can get better. Just wait until one of your students goes on to get a rating or three themselves and then tells you that you were their inspiration for doing so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #5 April 4, 2006 Don't even get me started. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevinwhelan 0 #6 April 5, 2006 How did the jump go? "be honest with yourself. Why do I want to go smaller? It is not going to make my penis longer." ~Brian Germain, on downsizing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #7 April 5, 2006 QuoteHow did the jump go? Does that matter? Isnt self gratification what its all about ? bozo bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #8 April 5, 2006 Well that and the money. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #9 April 5, 2006 QuoteWell that and the money. . I wonder if I can pro-rate this.....26 years. bozo bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #10 April 5, 2006 QuoteLast Sunday I did my first Coach jump. Yes I bought my Beer. I am sooooo hyped about going skydiving and getting paid to do it! Congrats to you! I am sure you will find yourself giving back every once in a while as well. Thats a great feeling too. Question, I must be behind, but what are the required jump numbers to become a coach these days? No reflection on you just noticed your profile with 120 jumps. I thought it was 200 now, and I think that is way to low for coaching. Hope I dont start any stuff by that comment. Again, congrats! and keep it up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #11 April 5, 2006 QuoteQuestion, I must be behind, but what are the required jump numbers to become a coach these days? B license and 100 jumps (B requirement is 50 these days)."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #12 April 5, 2006 QuoteI thought it was 200 now, and I think that is way to low for coaching. I think that depends on the person. I know people with 1000's of jumps who shouldn't be coaching anybody and others with 100 jumps who would be great at it. Before they changed the rating structure you could get a static line JM rating at 100 jumps (C license back in those days). I was teaching first jump courses and tossing first jump s/l students out of the plane at just over 100 jumps and 9 months in the sport. Personally I think the coach rating is a safer way of getting people into instructing than how I did it, since technically those that a coach is working with are self-jumpmastering. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #13 April 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteI thought it was 200 now, and I think that is way to low for coaching. I think that depends on the person. I know people with 1000's of jumps who shouldn't be coaching anybody and others with 100 jumps who would be great at it. Before they changed the rating structure you could get a static line JM rating at 100 jumps (C license back in those days). I was teaching first jump courses and tossing first jump s/l students out of the plane at just over 100 jumps and 9 months in the sport. Personally I think the coach rating is a safer way of getting people into instructing than how I did it, since technically those that a coach is working with are self-jumpmastering. Ahh the days of a dope on a rope... I am one myself, luckily I got to use a square. I totally agree. Yet I keep thinking that a 100 jumps lack some serious "experience" that only comes with time. On the other hand, being able to become a coach early might help keep people in the sport. But at what cost? Just some thoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thesaint 0 #14 April 5, 2006 The jump went very well. The student had a good stable exit. The jump required him to adjust fall rate and dock. He did that very well, was very altitude aware and broke off right on time without me having to prompt him. His track was very good I thought for a student and by that I mean straight. He pulled on time and landed 3 meters from the pea pit. "If a thousand people agree on a dumb ideal, it's STILL a dumb ideal." Skully Bro #1 - POPS# 10440 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thesaint 0 #15 April 5, 2006 Honestly the post that started this thread was a thinly vailed attempt to pat myself on the back, but I am quite proud of myself. I broke my leg a while back and all of my NON-skydiving friends thought I was gonna give up but I ain't no quitter. "If a thousand people agree on a dumb ideal, it's STILL a dumb ideal." Skully Bro #1 - POPS# 10440 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thesaint 0 #16 April 5, 2006 I actually did two coach jumps that day and one was done for free. "If a thousand people agree on a dumb ideal, it's STILL a dumb ideal." Skully Bro #1 - POPS# 10440 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #17 April 5, 2006 QuoteYet I keep thinking that a 100 jumps lack some serious "experience" that only comes with time. Ah, but did you think that when you had 100 jumps? Yeah, neither did I. QuoteOn the other hand, being able to become a coach early might help keep people in the sport. But at what cost? I learned an awful lot about the sport, the gear and the risks we're taking once I started working with students. I know I'm not the only one who can say that. I think that's one thing in favor of allowing those with not much experience to become coaches. I think we just have to trust that the coach course directors out there won't rate anyone that they don't feel is up to the task. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jheadley 0 #18 April 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteI thought it was 200 now, and I think that is way to low for coaching. I think that depends on the person. I know people with 1000's of jumps who shouldn't be coaching anybody and others with 100 jumps who would be great at it. Before they changed the rating structure you could get a static line JM rating at 100 jumps (C license back in those days). I was teaching first jump courses and tossing first jump s/l students out of the plane at just over 100 jumps and 9 months in the sport. Personally I think the coach rating is a safer way of getting people into instructing than how I did it, since technically those that a coach is working with are self-jumpmastering. I got my coach rating 8 months after getting my A and while I still in hindsight think this was too early, especially because my flying skill was not there yet, what I do think it helped me with a lot was that my own experiences as a student was still very vivid in my memory, and I was able to relate to a student well and see things from his point of view (e.g., sensory overload, tunnel vision, door fear). I believe being able to relate to what a student feels and how he/she thinks is very important to be a good teacher. I've met coaches who have completely forgotten what it's like to be a student and they get frustrated working with them, and they are negative and critical of the student, and it makes me sad . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
CSpenceFLY 1 #5 April 4, 2006 Don't even get me started. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevinwhelan 0 #6 April 5, 2006 How did the jump go? "be honest with yourself. Why do I want to go smaller? It is not going to make my penis longer." ~Brian Germain, on downsizing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #7 April 5, 2006 QuoteHow did the jump go? Does that matter? Isnt self gratification what its all about ? bozo bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #8 April 5, 2006 Well that and the money. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #9 April 5, 2006 QuoteWell that and the money. . I wonder if I can pro-rate this.....26 years. bozo bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #10 April 5, 2006 QuoteLast Sunday I did my first Coach jump. Yes I bought my Beer. I am sooooo hyped about going skydiving and getting paid to do it! Congrats to you! I am sure you will find yourself giving back every once in a while as well. Thats a great feeling too. Question, I must be behind, but what are the required jump numbers to become a coach these days? No reflection on you just noticed your profile with 120 jumps. I thought it was 200 now, and I think that is way to low for coaching. Hope I dont start any stuff by that comment. Again, congrats! and keep it up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #11 April 5, 2006 QuoteQuestion, I must be behind, but what are the required jump numbers to become a coach these days? B license and 100 jumps (B requirement is 50 these days)."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #12 April 5, 2006 QuoteI thought it was 200 now, and I think that is way to low for coaching. I think that depends on the person. I know people with 1000's of jumps who shouldn't be coaching anybody and others with 100 jumps who would be great at it. Before they changed the rating structure you could get a static line JM rating at 100 jumps (C license back in those days). I was teaching first jump courses and tossing first jump s/l students out of the plane at just over 100 jumps and 9 months in the sport. Personally I think the coach rating is a safer way of getting people into instructing than how I did it, since technically those that a coach is working with are self-jumpmastering. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #13 April 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteI thought it was 200 now, and I think that is way to low for coaching. I think that depends on the person. I know people with 1000's of jumps who shouldn't be coaching anybody and others with 100 jumps who would be great at it. Before they changed the rating structure you could get a static line JM rating at 100 jumps (C license back in those days). I was teaching first jump courses and tossing first jump s/l students out of the plane at just over 100 jumps and 9 months in the sport. Personally I think the coach rating is a safer way of getting people into instructing than how I did it, since technically those that a coach is working with are self-jumpmastering. Ahh the days of a dope on a rope... I am one myself, luckily I got to use a square. I totally agree. Yet I keep thinking that a 100 jumps lack some serious "experience" that only comes with time. On the other hand, being able to become a coach early might help keep people in the sport. But at what cost? Just some thoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thesaint 0 #14 April 5, 2006 The jump went very well. The student had a good stable exit. The jump required him to adjust fall rate and dock. He did that very well, was very altitude aware and broke off right on time without me having to prompt him. His track was very good I thought for a student and by that I mean straight. He pulled on time and landed 3 meters from the pea pit. "If a thousand people agree on a dumb ideal, it's STILL a dumb ideal." Skully Bro #1 - POPS# 10440 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thesaint 0 #15 April 5, 2006 Honestly the post that started this thread was a thinly vailed attempt to pat myself on the back, but I am quite proud of myself. I broke my leg a while back and all of my NON-skydiving friends thought I was gonna give up but I ain't no quitter. "If a thousand people agree on a dumb ideal, it's STILL a dumb ideal." Skully Bro #1 - POPS# 10440 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thesaint 0 #16 April 5, 2006 I actually did two coach jumps that day and one was done for free. "If a thousand people agree on a dumb ideal, it's STILL a dumb ideal." Skully Bro #1 - POPS# 10440 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #17 April 5, 2006 QuoteYet I keep thinking that a 100 jumps lack some serious "experience" that only comes with time. Ah, but did you think that when you had 100 jumps? Yeah, neither did I. QuoteOn the other hand, being able to become a coach early might help keep people in the sport. But at what cost? I learned an awful lot about the sport, the gear and the risks we're taking once I started working with students. I know I'm not the only one who can say that. I think that's one thing in favor of allowing those with not much experience to become coaches. I think we just have to trust that the coach course directors out there won't rate anyone that they don't feel is up to the task. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jheadley 0 #18 April 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteI thought it was 200 now, and I think that is way to low for coaching. I think that depends on the person. I know people with 1000's of jumps who shouldn't be coaching anybody and others with 100 jumps who would be great at it. Before they changed the rating structure you could get a static line JM rating at 100 jumps (C license back in those days). I was teaching first jump courses and tossing first jump s/l students out of the plane at just over 100 jumps and 9 months in the sport. Personally I think the coach rating is a safer way of getting people into instructing than how I did it, since technically those that a coach is working with are self-jumpmastering. I got my coach rating 8 months after getting my A and while I still in hindsight think this was too early, especially because my flying skill was not there yet, what I do think it helped me with a lot was that my own experiences as a student was still very vivid in my memory, and I was able to relate to a student well and see things from his point of view (e.g., sensory overload, tunnel vision, door fear). I believe being able to relate to what a student feels and how he/she thinks is very important to be a good teacher. I've met coaches who have completely forgotten what it's like to be a student and they get frustrated working with them, and they are negative and critical of the student, and it makes me sad . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
