hi standards?

[gofast_ER 0]

Im working on getting my C license (hopefully in time to try out for the golden knights if i dont deploy) One of the requirments is 25 jumps within 2 meters of a target. I mean, that seems pretty tight. The first accuracy jump i logged was just about dead on. Less than a foot away from the cone that was set up for me. The second was more like 10 ft away. It still seemed pretty close but according to uspa not good enough. I would think 5 meters would be fair. But 2? Come on im not trying to get a pro rating just yet.

I may not agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[quade 4]

The PRO rating requirements are quite a bit more stringent in that the landings have to be pre-declaired, stand-up landings where you must remain within the circle.

The C licence requires simply mean a part of your body touched the ground. PLFs are allowed and there is no requirement to do the landings consecutively. Quite a bit easier.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[airtwardo 7]

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I would think 5 meters would be fair. But 2? Come on im not trying to get a pro rating just yet.

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Like Quade said, they don't have to be consecutive jumps...Look through your logbook, bet you have at least 1/2 of them now.

If you're goal is the Knights...best to start viewing EVERY jump as an accuracy jump from this point on.

Think it through on the ground prior to the dive, picture in your mind, the pattern and approach.

Try for an accurate 'stand-up' every time...true enough you don't NEED stand ups for the "C"...but you will for the PRO and The Knights Demo Teams.

The sooner you start to train for "Demos" the better you'll be come try out time...

I've never been, but have many, many friends that were Golden Knights...it's well worth the time and commitment, both prior to and during the tour!!

Best of luck!

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"May ALL your (K)nights be Golden..."

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[gofast_ER 0]

well out of my 240 jumps I have so far basically all of them have been "stand up" landings. Probably because I have stuck with a very conservative canopie. I weigh about 160 and am jumping a 165. Been thinking about down sizing lately though. And well, before I joined the army my goals in skydiving were to have fun. So, I never really tried for any logged accuracy jumps. I just landed pretty much in the general area I wanted to land in. I have never had much of a problem doing that. Now that im in the army and have the goal of becoming a knight I actually have to start taking this a little more serious than I have in the past. It's still loads of fun though. Love every second of it. Hopefully i'll be able to pull this off in 35 jumps or less. I believe applications for the knights have to be in by the end of july. Im just a pfc and don't make all that much money so it's hard to get the cash together to jump as much as I did before I joined.

I may not agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[slotperfect 7]

Keep your standards high. Also keep your target small - "aim small miss small."

If you do indeed become a Golden Knight, the standards will get higher and the targets tighter. Your skill level will also improve to a level you never imagined possible.

During my tour there a couple of demos were VERY tight. One was on a barge in the middle of a river, where the tips of the target arms were dropping over the side. On that demo you were either on target or swimming! I missed that one - I was in school. That is an extreme case, but nobody got wet that day.

Look at this picture of Tom Welgos landing in the back of a bass boat. That was for fun, not a demo, but it doesn't get any tighter than that.

Arrive Safely

John

[gofast_ER 0]

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Look at this picture of Tom Welgos landing in the back of a bass boat. That was for fun, not a demo, but it doesn't get any tighter than that.

yes and no. Sure it is tight. But that boat looks longer than 6 ft. for sure. According to uspa if the target was towards the front of the boat he would have landed to far away for the jump to count towards a C license. I am keeping my standards high and will not cheat on any logged accuracy jumps. Only 2 so far and one was to far away from target. Hopefully I can do this soon.

I may not agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[skybytch 273]

Like was already said, from now on I'd suggest that you consider every jump to be an accuracy jump - the ones you use for the license requirement don't have to be dedicated accuracy jumps.

[davelepka 4]

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to try out for the golden knights


25 jumps within 2 meters of a target. I mean, that seems pretty tight

Those two statements have no place together. If you think you're GK material, dial yourself in, and make then all within one meter. Better yet, dead center at least half of them.

It just takes practice. You might be surprised how well you can do if you focus, plan ahead, and apply yourself.

[rhys 0]

so the uspa works in metres?

at least they know a good thing.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[darkwing 5]

That performance standard haas been around for decades I think, and I believe it is a good one. You need a little more faith in yourself, and the will to do it.

Now, more than ever, it is necessary to foster good spot landing skills. In the old days, under a Para-Commander it was in some ways easier to land in a very tight spot. Coming in vertically made it easier. I cringe now when I am on a load and we land out (yes, if you keep jumping you WILL land out) and there are people in the air that have never had to land other than in a big open field. Sooner or later you will end up in the back yard of some trailer in the middle of a forest, or in some heavily built up suburb, and you'll be glad you knew how to handle it.

-- Jeff
My Skydiving History

[gofast_ER 0]

Ok so iv been in the sport of skydiving now for about 5 years. I finally make it to spaceland. Well it was only my 4th jump at this dz so i didnt know the terrain too well. Open at 3 look down i see the landing area so i spin down to about 1. Only then do i realize NO! this isnt the landing area and its way to late for me to make it back. Need to figure something out kinda quick. I see a road in a residential area that looks good. Only problem is can only see power lines on one side of road...not sure if they are on both. I finally realize they arent but then another problem...hmmm....what way is the wind blowing....no wind sock anywhere to be found or anything eles to tell me what directionthe wind was going. Took a guess. A wrong one. By the time i knew it was wrong it was to late to turn into the wind. Lets just say my landing was less than graceful and i now need new pt pants as the left side is all torn up. I also need new pride too. That got all torn up by the kids that had been playing in a yard right next to where i was landing. Seriously, if you were a kid and saw someone fall out of the sky and tumble down the road landing downwind would you laugh?

just a brief story of my first off landing. Intresting experience.

I may not agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[gofast_ER 0]

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to try out for the golden knights


25 jumps within 2 meters of a target. I mean, that seems pretty tight

Those two statements have no place together. If you think you're GK material, dial yourself in, and make then all within one meter. Better yet, dead center at least half of them.

It just takes practice. You might be surprised how well you can do if you focus, plan ahead, and apply yourself.

Hopefully i'll be able to pull that off if i make it to tryouts. I think i might be at spaceland on the 15th when the knights are supposed to be there. Im hoping i can get some info from them. Like, do you know if they let you jump your own gear during tryouts? It would be nice to use a familiar canopie. If not, hopefully i can figure out a new canopie quick. Of course this is if i even make it to tryouts.

I may not agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[SkydiveJack 1]

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Im working on getting my C license (hopefully in time to try out for the golden knights ....

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....It still seemed pretty close but according to uspa not good enough. I would think 5 meters would be fair. But 2? Come on im not trying to get a pro rating just yet.

With all respect, this seems like whining. You will never, never never make it on the Knights if you whine. I've been around a few times when they were doing trials. Cut your losses on this post and just suck it up. Like someone said earlier in the thread, shoot for one meter and make half of them dead centers. This skill is absolutely necessary to make the team and whining will get you cut so fast it will make your head spin. Just as important as skydiving skills they are looking for a can do, team first attitude. They are a great bunch of people. I wish you good luck. Follow your dreams!

Jack

[gofast_ER 0]

good thing i already made the decision to wear my helmet while posting here...man its brutal!

I may not agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[matthewcline 0]

I would not suggest you roll in to try outs with your own rig, it ain't no "boogy".

All the Army's Demo Teams shoot for the same accuracy standards. The GK Team gets the soldiers who have jumps already (min 150) and most of the smaller Teams have to run a First Jump Course Program for their candidates and get them up to 500 to do a complete season.

On a Demo Team you'll land in a lot of Stadiums. You need to be spot on it. Imagine missing Cinergy Field, The Colisium, Three Rivers, or any other stadium on a river edge, fuck the embarassment factor, you could die. Not only do you need to be able to land your demo canopy there, but your reserve too.

Got to the GK web page and get the try out packet from there.

Maybe Greg will post (if he hasn't already) and he can explien more to you.

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[slotperfect 7]

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Like, do you know if they let you jump your own gear during tryouts? It would be nice to use a familiar canopie.

You need to call me. I PMd you my cell phone number. While things have changed a bit since I left, the basics are still the same. I can clear up some obvious misconceptions you have about tryouts and give you some tips on training for them.

Arrive Safely

John

[gofast_ER 0]

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Like, do you know if they let you jump your own gear during tryouts? It would be nice to use a familiar canopie.

You need to call me. I PMd you my cell phone number. While things have changed a bit since I left, the basics are still the same. I can clear up some obvious misconceptions you have about tryouts and give you some tips on training for them.

would really appreciate that!

I may not agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[SkydiveJack 1]

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good thing i already made the decision to wear my helmet while posting here...man its brutal!

It's just tough love man!

I think most everyone responding to your post mean well and are offering good advice. But I'm serious; a positive, can do, team first attitude can make the difference for someone getting on the team. Don't make excuses, make a good impression! Good luck!!

Jack

[skydivermom 0]

***Seriously, if you were a kid and saw someone fall out of the sky and tumble down the road landing downwind would you laugh?

just a brief story of my first off landing. Intresting experience.

responsibility is a heavy responsibility

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Shoot Kev,

I'm a grown woman and I would have laughted my butt off

No, seriously, I have one of your awesome landings on the video Walt is making for me. It's been great jumping with you and I wish you the best of luck on your license goal.

Mrs. WaltAppel

All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28

[skybytch 273]

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just a brief story of my first off landing. Intresting experience.

What did you learn from it?

[riggerrob 643]

I'm just a pfc and don't make all that much money so it's hard to get the cash together to jump as much as I did before I joined.