BRYANGOESBOOM 0 #26 April 11, 2006 I wish there were more ppl like you around Not only will you look better, feel better, and fuck better; you'll have significantly increased your life expectancy. --Douva Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,486 #27 April 11, 2006 QuoteWell Mr.Picky... I do think I've been biotch-slapped... do it again!! Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #28 April 11, 2006 It's worth noting that some countries don't even teach students to even adjust a closing loop. (By now, I have some of the basics and a spare closing loop handy now, but I could use the learning experience.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
190jumper 0 #29 April 11, 2006 Little Joe and Karen- Thanks so much for that sampling. Look in the mail for some beer money dude! and thanks so much. Karen, thanks for those tid bits of useful info, it was helpful. and thanks all for positive advice. I was just asking if some people had loops in my local area, that way I didnt have to ghetto rig something up for my trip through the airlines. I ended up using some boot shoelaces. TIM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #30 April 11, 2006 QuoteI've seen people on here in the past complain about packers doing this, I think people should be thanking their packers for taking extra time to keep them safe. But every time you tighten mine up, I can't get the damn thing closed when I pack it... my pack jobs aren't nearly as snug as yours. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #31 April 11, 2006 Quotewhy the hell does this thread change into something that it doesnt have to be? I just asked a simple question for some local fellow jumpers. The reason "why didn't you change it" was brought up is that there's a lot of people out there with 99 jumps that don't know a damn thing about their gear, and they wanted to ensure you knew that letting a closing loop break was A Bad Thing. Unfortunately, often leaving out important details to try and keep a thread short has the opposite effect. If you can demonstrate that there's a sensible reason why you've ended up in a situation, folk are less apt to try and lecture you Good to hear it's all sorted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darnknit 0 #32 April 12, 2006 Quotethat your closing loop should be as tight as possible. not necessarily that tight. i have seen more than a few main containers that had sharp edges on the last grommet, this was caused by the locking pin cutting into the grommet over and over. it becomes a definite snagpoint for main lines. overtightening a rig can cause problems that are as bad or worse than the problems you were trying to prevent. i cannot recall any manufacturer stating a container(main or reserve) should be closed as tight as possible in writing. pulling is cool. keep it in the skin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #33 April 12, 2006 QuoteBut every time you tighten mine up, I can't get the damn thing closed when I pack it... my pack jobs aren't nearly as snug as yours. Then you need to loosen it back up when you pack it. I know it's a pain... but I promise you that I'm not sneakily shortening your closing loop to be mean. It's cause I wub you. -Karen "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #34 April 12, 2006 QuoteI think that DZ's should liberally give out closing loops for FREE. At one DZ I used to jump at they charged a dollar for a new loop. Paragear is charging $22.50 for a 100yd roll of type IIA (item W9680R). Assuming you can get about 6 loops per yd; the cost per loop is 4 cents. I give them away for free, too. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #35 April 12, 2006 Of course the easy solution would have just been to tie the flaps shut with your pull up cord in a nice big bow... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #36 April 12, 2006 2 (main)closing loop and a pull-up cord is 3 Euros(+PP) from parasale.com(Finland). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
htrammel 0 #37 April 12, 2006 QuoteOf course the easy solution would have just been to tie the flaps shut with your pull up cord in a nice big bow... Just make sure to UNDO any temporary rigging. This whole thread reminds me of the time one of our jumper/ pilots at Palatka gave himself a pc in tow. He rode his motorcycle to the dz, and with no gear bag, he used a bic ballpoint pen to lock the main container closed on his SST Racer, so it didn't deploy and yank him off his bike. Of course, we were loading when he arrived and he ran to the Beech 18, throwing on legstraps as he boarded. You can figure out he rest. He never removed the pen, and didn't get a gear check. That Strong Lopo reserve did certainly kick his ass when he opened slightly head down...at terminal...with his main pc waving uselessly behind him...Ahh the good old days. So...just be sure to undo whatever field expedient closing technique you use. BSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #38 April 12, 2006 Excellent good stuff, Little Joe...My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #39 April 12, 2006 Wow! Sounds fun :). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #40 April 13, 2006 Quote2 (main)closing loop and a pull-up cord is 3 Euros(+PP) from parasale.com(Finland). Euros!??!? Please help this lazy american.... what does that convert in to dollars?"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdthomas 0 #41 April 13, 2006 QuoteLittle Joe and Karen- Thanks so much for that sampling. Look in the mail for some beer money dude! and thanks so much. Karen, thanks for those tid bits of useful info, it was helpful. and thanks all for positive advice. I was just asking if some people had loops in my local area, that way I didnt have to ghetto rig something up for my trip through the airlines. I ended up using some boot shoelaces. TIM Hey Bro your closing loops are in the mail and I want to say that I have had many request for closing loops so you are not alone! In the morning I am mailing out 3 seperate packages of closing loops. Keep the beer money and just be safe. Little Joewww.greenboxphotography.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #42 April 13, 2006 QuoteQuote2 (main)closing loop and a pull-up cord is 3 Euros(+PP) from parasale.com(Finland). Euros!??!? Please help this lazy american.... what does that convert in to dollars? A very nice profit margin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #43 April 13, 2006 QuotePlease help this lazy american.... http://www.xe.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #44 April 13, 2006 I used to have a double-ended closing loop with different lengths from knot to loop. That might help your tug-of-war with Karen. It also doubles the lifespan of the loop. Just be careful how you stow it so there isn't a long looped end hanging out to catch on something. BTW I broke my first closing loop last year, it didn't even look that worn despite having a lot of jumps on it. Karen heard it break and gave me shit for it. But she also gave me acouple new closing loops.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #45 April 13, 2006 It's my job to give shit. Come to my Easter Egg hunt on Sunday at 10 am!! Free jumps and other free stuff!!! "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John4455 0 #46 April 13, 2006 Pensecola??? Beach Jump???? Sounds like, FLORA-BAMA!!! How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #47 April 14, 2006 This eagle would love to hunt eggs but I think I hear the sound of snow falling. Save some free jumps for me though.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites