Mostly_Harmless 0 #1 July 10, 2006 I took this list from the uspa website: QuoteC License 3. Persons holding a USPA C license are able to exercise all privileges of a B-license holder, are eligible for the USPA Instructor rating (except USPA Tandem Instructor), participate in certain demonstration jumps, may ride as passenger on USPA Tandem Instructor training and rating renewal jumps, and must have-- a. met all current requirements for or hold a USPA B license b. completed 200 jumps, including accumulating at least 60 minutes of controlled freefall time c. landed within two meters of target center on 25 jumps d. aerial performance requirements, either: (1) during freefall, perform in sequence within 18 seconds-a backloop, front loop, left 360-degree turn, right 360-degree turn, right barrel roll and left barrel roll (2) completed at least two points on an 8-way or larger random skydive e. Passed a written exam conducted by a current USPA I/E, S&TA, or USPA Board member. I realize that the uspa gives you two maneuver options (one solo, one RW) for obtaining your "C" license but I was wondering how come they don't include like 2 docks on a 4 way freefly dive? I am just asking because for the past 100 jumps or so I have been only doing FF jumps and not RW. I know that I could do the solo maneuver but since it seems like a lot of people are going towards FF instead of RW wouldn't it make sense for the uspa to include an option for docks in a FF jump?_________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFlyer 0 #2 July 10, 2006 In South Africa we have Licence requirements for any discipline, be it RW, freeflying, freestyle etc. I like this idea because like you say, not everyone enjoys doing RW. And on the other hand not everyone wants to freefly. Sorry, I dont know how it works in the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aliveboy2004 0 #3 July 10, 2006 I would thing that before you start doing the free flying thing - you should at least master the skills needed for belly related RW. If you can't perform some 'simple' RW skills you're nothing but an out of control Free Flyer attempting to be stable while opening your canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #4 July 10, 2006 QuoteI would thing that before you start doing the free flying thing - you should at least master the skills needed for belly related RW. If you can't perform some 'simple' RW skills you're nothing but an out of control Free Flyer attempting to be stable while opening your canopy. Yup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jloirsdaan 0 #5 July 10, 2006 Uh....I don't think he was saying he COULDN'T do the RW. I read it as him asking why not add a FFlying formation to qualify you for it. To me that doesn't sound unreasonable. Edit to add: I do nothing but RW. Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #6 July 10, 2006 QuoteUh....I don't think he was saying he COULDN'T do the RW. I read it as him asking why not add a FFlying formation to qualify you for it. To me that doesn't sound unreasonable. Edit to add: I do nothing but RW. Because if the FFlying formation stuff was added to the license requirements, then the FFers wouldn't learn how to fly on their bellies and be saver skydivers.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selbbub78 0 #7 July 11, 2006 QuoteQuote d. aerial performance requirements, either: (1) during freefall, perform in sequence within 18 seconds-a backloop, front loop, left 360-degree turn, right 360-degree turn, right barrel roll and left barrel roll (2) completed at least two points on an 8-way or larger random skydive e. Passed a written exam conducted by a current USPA I/E, S&TA, or USPA Board member. I realize that the uspa gives you two maneuver options (one solo, one RW) for obtaining your "C" license but I was wondering how come they don't include like 2 docks on a 4 way freefly dive? I am just asking because for the past 100 jumps or so I have been only doing FF jumps and not RW. I know that I could do the solo maneuver but since it seems like a lot of people are going towards FF instead of RW wouldn't it make sense for the uspa to include an option for docks in a FF jump? Where in there does it say that it has to be RW? It doesn't even mention that the 2 points has to be in freefall. The solo that states, but nowhere in the 2nd choice does it say that it has to be an RW jump. CReW Skies,"Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #8 July 11, 2006 mine was a hybrid which was an eight way hybrid four flat, four hanging, showing that I have belly skills enough to fly to my slot and take grips and that I could turn a point by switching to the stand. Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #9 July 11, 2006 and to all you jagoffs who keep saying that we need to learn belly skills to be safe... freeflying in its truest form requires that you can belly fly as it is FLIGHT ON ALL ORIENTATIONS... and to all you freefliers who dont know this...learn it... a dive plan from the other day... exit 3 way star sidebody star sit round sit compressed accordian the guys in nationals showed some amazing freeflying that incorporated all axis flight including belly flying in thier routines... Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 21 #10 July 12, 2006 QuoteWhere in there does it say that it has to be RW? It doesn't even mention that the 2 points has to be in freefall. The solo that states, but nowhere in the 2nd choice does it say that it has to be an RW jump. Damn good point, and I think the wording can just be left alone and let people qualify for the license as their S&TA (or whoever else signs off on the skill requirements) sees fit. It's only to demonstrate a certain skill level, which is arbitrary anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #11 July 12, 2006 It's funny. I more easily qualify for USPA regs than CSPA regs. If I remember right from my memory, with CSPA, I have to complete the style series in 13 seconds rather than 18 seconds, and I have to have other air activities in addition to 100 RW skydives (25 of which are 4-way or bigger). Albiet with CSPA, I only need to land within 10 meters of target center on 25 skydives, not 2 meters. (Correct me if I am wrong -- it's been a while since I looked at PIM's/SIM's -- but it's almost time for me to again, since I'm nearing 200 jumps. However, I'm also very busy organizing for Rainbow Boogie, and I have been speciallizing on bigways lately, having jumped 15-way-or-bigger for 16 out of the last 19 jumps) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mostly_Harmless 0 #12 July 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhere in there does it say that it has to be RW? It doesn't even mention that the 2 points has to be in freefall. The solo that states, but nowhere in the 2nd choice does it say that it has to be an RW jump. Damn good point, and I think the wording can just be left alone and let people qualify for the license as their S&TA (or whoever else signs off on the skill requirements) sees fit. It's only to demonstrate a certain skill level, which is arbitrary anyway. All in interpretation._________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
