piisfish 140 #26 July 27, 2004 used to grab them immediately, now more into harness input, with hads close to the risers for a quick response time in case the input is under or over what was required...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #27 July 27, 2004 QuoteI always grab my rear risers from the outside, once the canopy is out of the bag. Once the canopy is open, I am immediately flying it with rear risers until I know my airspace is clear and I'm pointing toward the windline (or the landing area). I second that. I wait until line stretch, but once the canopy is sniveling, I control the opening as much as possible with harness input and risers. _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flypunk 0 #28 July 28, 2004 yup that is the case here, specially with the Icarus packed with the brakes unstowed. Gotta say it hurts like a bitch to be slapped by the grommets on your knuckles, but its worth all those times where flying the opening is a requirement and not an option. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #29 July 28, 2004 I do it on almost all my jumps. I've never done it on a skydive though. I've also hurt myself (dislocated thumb) doing it. The trick is to train yourself to grab after you are stood up. Since the risers are already under tension, they won't "snap" your hands after that point. I usually have my hands out and waiting just outside the risers, then grab once I feel myself putting downward pressure on the harness. Can someone explain why you would want to do this on a skydive? Maybe I'm missing something, but I've never really had a skydiving opening close enough to someone else to make the half second it takes to get your hands up there valuable.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #30 July 28, 2004 QuoteCan someone explain why you would want to do this on a skydive? Same reasons you do it on BASE jumps. Instant control of the canopy, and prevention of malfunctions.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #31 August 4, 2004 I'm on the rears as soon as the canopy is out of the bag. The centre cells of the Samurai are not ported so they inflate before the ends... it's like flying a 46 for a moment. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #32 August 4, 2004 I also grab my rears after the canopy is inflated/inflating since it does save you a couple extra seconds if you had to react to something heading at you vs. fumbling with the toggles. If my logic is wrong here, hopefully someone will let me know... NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #33 August 4, 2004 Quote Can someone explain why you would want to do this on a skydive? Maybe I'm missing something, but I've never really had a skydiving opening close enough to someone else to make the half second it takes to get your hands up there valuable. Try flying camera sometime with a bunch of newbies. Short tracks and high openings means you better have every half second you can get in your favor.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #34 August 6, 2004 QuoteThe trick is to train yourself to grab after you are stood up. Since the risers are already under tension, they won't "snap" your hands after that point. I usually have my hands out and waiting just outside the risers, then grab once I feel myself putting downward pressure on the harness. I do pretty much the same thing. I "fly" my body through the opening. I stay in a stable body position until I feel line stretch, then I steer with legstrap pressure. Since I am in a box position during opening, my hands are next to my risers once I get line stretch. I used to grab them as they came out of the container, but it did a lot of things. It changed my body position and the risers nabbed my fingers on occasion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipro101 0 #35 August 6, 2004 I have never grabbed my risers on opening.... I suppose if I notice im about to run into someone I would try it, but whats the point if there is no one around (which there shouldnt be !) l Actually, untill just recently, I would hesitate to pull because I knew it was going to hurt (they always did), my hands would be in a tight fist and my entire body tensed waiting for the pain. There was no way I could be loose enough to reach up and grab my risers. thankfully I have solved that problem by using the smaller rubber bands for my locking stows. I havent had a hard opening since.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masher 1 #36 August 9, 2004 I noticed this this weekend. I do grab my risers on opening. I jump a camera most jumjps, and as such, don't watch my canopy opening (my head and eyes are on the horizon). My hands are on my risers just above the rings so that I can initiate any manoevers quickly.-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites whatever 0 #37 August 9, 2004 nah, dude... I can grab and steer with rear risers in my S3. but then, I'm almost tall and have long limbs, so that helps. couldn't do that in a Classic or a Gti blue skies, long flights, on-heading openings, soft landings, bomber pro, berms on every corner, 3 foot deep powder all winter and all that other good stuff... sam soon to be gone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StevePhelps 0 #38 August 9, 2004 QuoteI have never grabbed my risers on opening.... I suppose if I notice im about to run into someone I would try it, but whats the point if there is no one around (which there shouldnt be !) skydiving is full of surprises! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #39 August 9, 2004 >I have never grabbed my risers on opening.... >I suppose if I notice im about to run into someone I would try it, but > whats the point if there is no one around (which there shouldnt be !) Cause eventually you will open 20 feet from someone, and then it's too late to start looking for your risers. It's like a waveoff - why wave off if you got clear of everyone? Because sometimes shit happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cvfd1399 0 #40 August 9, 2004 Before this weekend I would have thought the same thing the other poster said. Saturday 4-way rw/hnp 14k griped formation exit, 11k turn track for 4 seconds deploy for a 10kish 4 canopy hop n pop. Well the exit was ok the short rw dive was good, tracked looked over left shoulder and saw 2 other guys tracking, look right did not see 3rd guy. Pull as I am looking up at my canopy to watch deployment that 3rd guy came deploying past me to my right!!!! I was pissed as hell!!! It is hard to say how far he was away from me, but I knew who it was, and could see every one of his lines clearly. Probbaly 50-100 feet away or more like I said it is hard to tell. There was no time to turn b/c he was comming from above, and I could not see him due to my inflating canopy. Thank god he was in the early stages of deployment and went under me. I tracked my slot and gave a good wave off, and a look up above me and never seen him. I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #41 August 9, 2004 Quote Cause eventually you will open 20 feet from someone, and then it's too late to start looking for your risers. It's like a waveoff - why wave off if you got clear of everyone? Because sometimes shit happens. Jesus F'n xst.... I will NEVER forget that jump when (even though there were only 4 of us) my good friend Jack and I opened at what seemed to be adquate distance until my Sabre 150 opened 90 degrees or so to the right and his 170 opened about the same to the left. My feet caught the top of his canopy as we brushed by each other. Neither of us had more than a hundred jumps at the time, but neither of us had control of our canopies at the time either..... I've worked on canopy control during opening since then. It's a good practice, imho. Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
masher 1 #36 August 9, 2004 I noticed this this weekend. I do grab my risers on opening. I jump a camera most jumjps, and as such, don't watch my canopy opening (my head and eyes are on the horizon). My hands are on my risers just above the rings so that I can initiate any manoevers quickly.-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #37 August 9, 2004 nah, dude... I can grab and steer with rear risers in my S3. but then, I'm almost tall and have long limbs, so that helps. couldn't do that in a Classic or a Gti blue skies, long flights, on-heading openings, soft landings, bomber pro, berms on every corner, 3 foot deep powder all winter and all that other good stuff... sam soon to be gone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #38 August 9, 2004 QuoteI have never grabbed my risers on opening.... I suppose if I notice im about to run into someone I would try it, but whats the point if there is no one around (which there shouldnt be !) skydiving is full of surprises! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #39 August 9, 2004 >I have never grabbed my risers on opening.... >I suppose if I notice im about to run into someone I would try it, but > whats the point if there is no one around (which there shouldnt be !) Cause eventually you will open 20 feet from someone, and then it's too late to start looking for your risers. It's like a waveoff - why wave off if you got clear of everyone? Because sometimes shit happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #40 August 9, 2004 Before this weekend I would have thought the same thing the other poster said. Saturday 4-way rw/hnp 14k griped formation exit, 11k turn track for 4 seconds deploy for a 10kish 4 canopy hop n pop. Well the exit was ok the short rw dive was good, tracked looked over left shoulder and saw 2 other guys tracking, look right did not see 3rd guy. Pull as I am looking up at my canopy to watch deployment that 3rd guy came deploying past me to my right!!!! I was pissed as hell!!! It is hard to say how far he was away from me, but I knew who it was, and could see every one of his lines clearly. Probbaly 50-100 feet away or more like I said it is hard to tell. There was no time to turn b/c he was comming from above, and I could not see him due to my inflating canopy. Thank god he was in the early stages of deployment and went under me. I tracked my slot and gave a good wave off, and a look up above me and never seen him. I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #41 August 9, 2004 Quote Cause eventually you will open 20 feet from someone, and then it's too late to start looking for your risers. It's like a waveoff - why wave off if you got clear of everyone? Because sometimes shit happens. Jesus F'n xst.... I will NEVER forget that jump when (even though there were only 4 of us) my good friend Jack and I opened at what seemed to be adquate distance until my Sabre 150 opened 90 degrees or so to the right and his 170 opened about the same to the left. My feet caught the top of his canopy as we brushed by each other. Neither of us had more than a hundred jumps at the time, but neither of us had control of our canopies at the time either..... I've worked on canopy control during opening since then. It's a good practice, imho. Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
