MotherGoose 0 #1 July 12, 2006 So after some discussion about packing times on my last thread, it occurred to me that packing is a largely unrecognized and unappreciated art form. Are there any event organizers for local, national or even world meets that would consider a packing competition to be part of their festivities ?? Honestly . . . why the hell not . . . there are obviously some truly skilled people out there and we should allow them to shine and be recognized and maybe even make a little bit of prize money !! Let me know what you think.You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #2 July 12, 2006 QuoteSo after some discussion about packing times on my last thread, it occurred to me that packing is a largely unrecognized and unappreciated art form. Are there any event organizers for local, national or even world meets that would consider a packing competition to be part of their festivities ?? Honestly . . . why the hell not . . . there are obviously some truly skilled people out there and we should allow them to shine and be recognized and maybe even make a little bit of prize money !! Let me know what you think. I know you couldnt pay me to jump a rig that was packed in a packing contest __ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #3 July 12, 2006 Oh c'mon . . . packing WITH speed does not mean packing WITHOUT safety. Besides . . . these rigs would not be jumped after they would be opened on the ground and inspected by judges for potential mal's and mistakes and points would be deducted. I think it's a hell of an idea.You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #4 July 12, 2006 Blindfolded packing. Fastest time wins, if you don't jump the packjob you're disqualified.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #5 July 12, 2006 QuoteSo after some discussion about packing times on my last thread, it occurred to me that packing is a largely unrecognized and unappreciated art form. Are there any event organizers for local, national or even world meets that would consider a packing competition to be part of their festivities ?? Honestly . . . why the hell not . . . there are obviously some truly skilled people out there and we should allow them to shine and be recognized and maybe even make a little bit of prize money !! Let me know what you think. Write the rules - and perhaps we will have it at our next CSL competition... (Most of our participants who are USAFA cadets that flat pack their government issued large rigs, so I don't know how many people we can get to participate, but it sounds fun...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #6 July 12, 2006 I can flat pack a big canopy faster than I can pro pack one. Flat packing is pretty quick, especially with the bigger f-111 canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #7 July 12, 2006 Well the rules would have to be defined in detail, but basically I'm thinking that the packers would each get an equivelant rig with same size canopy. The packing style will be entirely up to the competitor (side, flat, pro, etc). With brakes already stowed, canopies would be laid out in similar heaps and at the onset, the packer would have to lay it out and pack it, howver they please in the fastest time possible, right up until the pin is inserted. Then, the judge(s) would carefully open each rig and deduct a set amount of seconds from the packers time for mistakes. There would obviously be different categories for entry (tandem, sport, student). The rules would be pretty straight forward.You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohanW 0 #8 July 12, 2006 Where can I volunteer my rig to be packed in a packing contest? After which I'd have to jump it to have it open for the next round of packing of course Johan. I am. I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #9 July 12, 2006 QuoteThen, the judge(s) would carefully open each rig and deduct a set amount of seconds from the packers time for mistakes. 10 seconds for a partial mal - fixable 20 seconds for a spinner - fixable 30 seconds for a partial mal - chop required 40 seconds for a spinner - chop required* 50 seconds for a horseshoe 60 seconds for a total 60 seconds for a slammer *Extra 20 seconds added for sub-100 sqft cross braced canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milehighpres 0 #10 July 12, 2006 AWESOME IDEA MOTHERGOOSE....no we just need a place and a date. also icarus tandem canopies do not stow the brakes so there would be an advantage with that canopy. also the rigs would have to be the same since new canopies are harder (more slippery) than older( 1000's of jumps) on them. also after the competition there would be a great deal of learning from one another, learning diffrent ways and ideas on packing which would make everyone better as a whole...."the sky is not the limit....the ground is" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #11 July 12, 2006 QuoteWhere can I volunteer my rig to be packed in a packing contest? After which I'd have to jump it to have it open for the next round of packing of course You're a brave man . . . carry onYou think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #12 July 12, 2006 QuoteThen, the judge(s) would carefully open each rig and deduct a set amount of seconds from the packers time for mistakes. That sounds like it could be quite subjective. Just jump them, if it mals, you're disqualified, add 15 or 30 secs for each linetwist or if you land saying "F*ck me that spanked open"(I wasn't kidding about the blindfolds either)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #13 July 12, 2006 QuoteBlindfolded packing. Fastest time wins, if you don't jump the packjob you're disqualified. One more rule. Each contestant needs to have had at least 3 beers just prior to putting on the blindfold. Makes it more entertaining for the spectators.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #14 July 12, 2006 I don't think the rigs should be unpacked... they should be jumped by the person packing them, with the openings on video of course. It ensures realism, safety, and the video allows for additional points for judging. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #15 July 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteThen, the judge(s) would carefully open each rig and deduct a set amount of seconds from the packers time for mistakes. 10 seconds for a partial mal - fixable 20 seconds for a spinner - fixable 30 seconds for a partial mal - chop required 40 seconds for a spinner - chop required* 50 seconds for a horseshoe 60 seconds for a total 60 seconds for a slammer *Extra 20 seconds added for sub-100 sqft cross braced canopies This is good . . . we should definitely pursue this seriously.You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #16 July 12, 2006 QuoteAWESOME IDEA MOTHERGOOSE....no we just need a place and a date. also icarus tandem canopies do not stow the brakes so there would be an advantage with that canopy. also the rigs would have to be the same since new canopies are harder (more slippery) than older( 1000's of jumps) on them. also after the competition there would be a great deal of learning from one another, learning diffrent ways and ideas on packing which would make everyone better as a whole.... thanks pres . . . I think this could really take off . . .You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #17 July 12, 2006 QuoteThen, the judge(s) would carefully open each rig and deduct a set amount of seconds from the packers time for mistakes.... *Extra 20 seconds added for sub-100 sqft cross braced canopies That would be a pretty crap comp! You add time for mistakes and subtract time for optional added difficulty. Its the smallest time that wins, remember.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #18 July 12, 2006 QuoteI don't think the rigs should be unpacked... they should be jumped by the person packing them, with the openings on video of course. It ensures realism, safety, and the video allows for additional points for judging. This is a sinister little twist to the plot . . . that'll keep the packers honest . . . no doubt !!You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #19 July 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteBlindfolded packing. Fastest time wins, if you don't jump the packjob you're disqualified. One more rule. Each contestant needs to have had at least 3 beers just prior to putting on the blindfold. Makes it more entertaining for the spectators. You think I'm kidding? Its been done....Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mostly_Harmless 0 #20 July 12, 2006 The NASCAR guys have competitions to see what team can build an engine the fastest. Why not have a competition to see what rigger can put a complete rig together int the fastest time (install cypress, reserve, main etc...)?_________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #21 July 12, 2006 Already been Said but Blind Fold Packing Contests have been around for a long time or at least thats my understanding. You must close the Pack Job and retrieve a beer from the BOC and Down it before you stow the Pilot Chute (or after you stow it) winner is the first one done. As for any other rules well you can add all you want but with a DZ full of people watching you can't really "Cheat" but not flaking the cells and lines etc... The last one I watched the winner was done in less then 10 minutes. One person would have been even faster but broke the closing loop and by the time someone handed him a new one he was about 15 seconds behind the winner. I think he would have been done in less then 5 minutes. Oh and I think all 5 guys jump the pack jobs cuz they was jumping the next morning and they sure wasn't in any condition to be re-packing the rigs that night or in the morning MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #22 July 12, 2006 I used to know an Aussie that said he'd been in packing contests af few times. One of which was in a phone booth! AND the packer had to jump it to claim his time. on a good day I can pack to make a 15 min call and have time to take a leak, get some water and be geared up andwaiting at the ropes when the plane pulls up, and have no spinners, slammers or mals.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #23 July 12, 2006 I'm still thinking on a grander scale . . . like at least Nationals, and an actual serious competition with real prize money, no beers or screwing around.You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #24 July 12, 2006 Quote10 seconds for a partial mal - fixable 20 seconds for a spinner - fixable 30 seconds for a partial mal - chop required 40 seconds for a spinner - chop required* 50 seconds for a horseshoe 60 seconds for a total 60 seconds for a slammer Does not make nay sense. Packing fast does not mean that you make a mal. Opening a packjob does not show every problems. You don;t know how good your packjob is useless use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #25 July 12, 2006 Yes phoenixlpr, there would have to be a set of master riggers as judges that could identify ( to the best of their abilities ) if there was a potential mal.You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites