tdog 0 #26 July 12, 2006 QuoteQuote10 seconds for a partial mal - fixable 20 seconds for a spinner - fixable 30 seconds for a partial mal - chop required 40 seconds for a spinner - chop required* 50 seconds for a horseshoe 60 seconds for a total 60 seconds for a slammer Does not make nay sense. Packing fast does not mean that you make a mal. Opening a packjob does not show every problems. You don;t know how good your packjob is useless use it. I was kind of joking when I put the list of times up... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #27 July 12, 2006 Hehe, speaking from our racing days and thinking outside the box. Does that mean you could trash pack the thing. I mean a real, just stuff it in the bag and close the container in a s quick as possible and only incur a maximum of 60 second penalty Could have it packed in 2 mins + 60 second penalty = Winner! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #28 July 12, 2006 The only rules for a packing contest are: Fastest time wins. You must jump it. As stated above...location, sight and sobriety are all optional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #29 July 12, 2006 QuoteI know you couldnt pay me to jump a rig that was packed in a packing contest I've jumped mine after packing it in a regualar speed contest and a blindfolded speed contest. I came in second both times. First time by about 1 second. During the blindfolded packing contest I should have had 1st but NOOoo... I just had to repack the pilot chute (while still blind folded) Both worked fine.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #30 July 12, 2006 QuoteI mean a real, just stuff it in the bag and close the container in a s quick as possible and only incur a maximum of 60 second penalty Tongue Could have it packed in 2 mins + 60 second penalty = Winner! Thats why in real packing contests you need to jump the thing. Opening it up again and judging it is wussy talk!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyfreek 1 #31 July 12, 2006 i won a packing competition a few years ago. the first 4 packed got to go on the next and last load of the day. i was forst ready to go. i had my first reserve ride that evening..... ooooooops Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #32 July 12, 2006 I would not take part of it. I only pack for cash damnit, not for sport. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #33 July 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteI mean a real, just stuff it in the bag and close the container in a s quick as possible and only incur a maximum of 60 second penalty Tongue Could have it packed in 2 mins + 60 second penalty = Winner! Thats why in real packing contests you need to jump the thing. Opening it up again and judging it is wussy talk! of course . . . wussy talk . . . spoken by the fearless one . . . I suppose you enjoy increasing the element of risk in a sport that is full of it?? If people start trash packing and becoming complacent enough to rely on their reserve, then we obviously have a problem. I wanted to keep this clean and competitive. There you all go again, making it more dangerous. I'm reading about blindfolds, beers, 2 minute packs, etc. ???? NO THANKS . . . I get enough adrenaline from jumping "normal" packs.You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #34 July 12, 2006 You'd have to jump it; it's the only test that makes sense. You can't tell by looking at a packjob if it will slam open, or open into a spinner, or open on heading. And the messier the pack job, often the better it opens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #35 July 12, 2006 The key to winning any packing contest (drunk, blind-folded or otherwise) is the magic flake. It is top secret information passed onto me by an Israeli and a South African who both deemed me worthy. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #36 July 12, 2006 QuoteThe key to winning any packing contest (drunk, blind-folded or otherwise) is the magic flake. It is top secret information passed onto me by an Israeli and a South African who both deemed me worthy. I'm going to have to get you to pass that info on to me again, Karen ... I don't seem to be quite worthy even though you keep trying to get me to understand it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #37 July 12, 2006 QuoteI used to know an Aussie that said he'd been in packing contests af few times. One of which was in a phone booth! AND the packer had to jump it to claim his time. Yeah, I believe Rel Week at Batchelor in the Northern Territory used to (and may still) have phone booth packing contests on a regular basis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #38 July 12, 2006 QuoteI wanted to keep this clean and competitive. There you all go again, making it more dangerous. If you don't trust it enough to jump it, then it doesn't count as a packjob. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 5 #39 July 12, 2006 Not tried the phone booth yet but have done the - Blind fold (sweet opening) - Blind fold drunk (worked ok) - Pack on a cushion. Take a seat cushion off a sofa and no part of you or the canopy is allowed off or you have to start again. (Best opening ever) I can see it now.. teams from all over the world competing in the I.D.B/F.P Comp. See you thereI like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #40 July 12, 2006 If someone gets all the rules worked out and make a good job it, www.karnagekrew.com will put up £1000 for a comp over here in the UK. I think this would be a big attraction. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #41 July 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteI wanted to keep this clean and competitive. There you all go again, making it more dangerous. If you don't trust it enough to jump it, then it doesn't count as a packjob. I trust reserves which I personally packed to open, most likely on heading. I trust mains with the fabric clear of the lines and slider at the stops to not damage themselves on opening or to open unreasonably hard for the canopy type. That combination would give me a competitive advantage over some one who has to trust the main to not malfunction. For recreational use, I have higher standards because 1) I don't want to risk loosing the main or even spending hours inspecting and repacking the reserve and 2) I like soft, consistant on-heading openings 3) Pretty pack jobs appeal to my sense of aesthetics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #42 July 12, 2006 We already have these here at Skydive Utah. One guy in particular (camera guy/tandem master) is scary fast with his Vengeance. Rules are simple: 1. canopies must be of somewhat similar size. Most of the smaller mains are either ZP or hybrids around here, but fabric should be a part of the competition. 2. must jump the pack job 3. can pack any way you want to, but since you're gonna jump it... 4. Contest is over when the rig is stood up with PC packed and tuck tabs in. winner gets a case of beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #43 July 13, 2006 Pack on a cushion sounds like a laugh; I hadn't heard of that one... ...maybe at Equinox or the Picton Christmas boogie? Although, Toogoolawah does have a phone booth. I need to downsize before entering that competition; it'd be not fun in a phone booth with a 170. I'd probably suffocate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #44 July 13, 2006 We used to do this packing contest some years ago but with military rigs (MT1 series). But instead of just one we had a total of four to pack with the start time with proper layout to pin closing. Average time was worked in to like 4 minutes 45 secounds if memory serves. Of course we had one guy laying out the rigs for each team: as that helped keep things in tune since alot of these rigs came back in sometimes messed up for what ever reason or another. For MC1 series we worked on the same number and this was around four minutes average. Of course we would be the only ones whom would jump them and we had a IP (Inprocess Inspector) watching our work... Just in case you ask. I can recall some years ago packing a MT1 in a two and half ton truck in Honderous. What a cluster duck that was. Just glad it was mine and not someone elses... Opened with a bang... unlike the usual senvil... but still it worked.... Just my two cents here.......Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 5 #45 July 13, 2006 best bit is trying to get it in the bag with no canopy touching the floor around. see ya at Nox for a drunken cushion packing races then I like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #46 July 13, 2006 Quotebest bit is trying to get it in the bag with no canopy touching the floor around. see ya at Nox for a drunken cushion packing races then I'm buying an old ragged-out F111 79sq ft canopy specially Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyblu3 0 #47 July 13, 2006 When it's a competition people get very competitive to win and will disregard safety. I saw a video of a packing competition at a Russian drop zone and it was insane. The rules were you had to jump the pack job before the winner is announced. These guys were just shoving canopy into the bag left, right and center. Was fun to watch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #48 July 13, 2006 QuoteThese guys were just shoving canopy into the bag left, right and center. Was fun to watch. Those guys have faith in their packjob. Packing is a religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatbomb 0 #49 July 13, 2006 QuoteIf someone gets all the rules worked out and make a good job it, www.karnagekrew.com will put up £1000 for a comp over here in the UK. Damn! Where were you/your money when I smoked everyone's ass in a blindfolded packing race at Netheravon for the BCPA Southerns a couple of years ago! (And I was only one of two who jumped them!)--- Swoopert, CS-Aiiiiiii! Piccies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #50 July 13, 2006 I have just put a proposition to a dropzone to let the Karnage Krew hold it at their dz and have asked for cheap slots for the weekend. Will see what the outcome is but will not happen until my boggie season in the states is over. UK jumpers, do you think £1000 pounds first place would bring packers from all over the country and maybe even spain? would it be a big competition you think? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
