bigway 4 #26 October 9, 2006 QuoteQuoteCaravan has much soul. You just have to ride in one more than TWICE to feel it. Sorry. I have more jumps out of it than any other aircraft but... no soul Yeah, caravan is a great ship but no soul. When you are sitting in a caravan to alttitude, it is nothing special. I think there are a few planes that really dont have any soul at all.... Caravan, PAC 750 Otter C-402 cresco fletcher ..... A fucking CASA has soul! .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #27 October 9, 2006 I believe that in order to have soul an aircraft generally must fullfil one or more of the following - made of wood/ canvas/ string, old piston engine, burning smell when the engine's running, strangely endearing major design flaw, important place in aviation history. There are of course exceptions to the rule, but the Caravan don't qualify!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #28 October 9, 2006 You don't see them much at "mainstream" DZs, but DC-3s always seemed very soulful to me. Back when it was a common jumpship, there were several that had extra soul, like Mr. Douglas at DeLand. Radial engines, lots of fabric, funky sounds and smells - I think it qualifies. Kevin_____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,550 #29 October 9, 2006 QuoteOtter ..... A fucking CASA has soul! I think it depends on where you come from. To me, an Otter has soul, and a CASA has none. Zilcho. But a Cessna 182, preferably with mismatched carpet on the floor, and nicked paint, and a rubber baseball stuck to the bottom of the wing to keep the inflight door from slamming up too hard -- now that has soul! They're all airplanes that have individual personalities. Since I grew up with Otters, they do have individual personalities. Little quirks that make each one different. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #30 October 9, 2006 The jump plane with THE MOST SOUL, without a shadow of a doubt (and I'll take NO arguments from anyone on this) is Mr Douglas the DC-3 Dakota - AMEN Bruvvers & Systas . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #31 October 9, 2006 Airplanes definitely need piston engines to have soul. Radial engines have more soul than horizontally-opposed engines, even if it is only because they have more of that "hot oil in the morning: smell. Fabric covering equals more soul and tail wheels equal even more soul: Beech 18s, DC-3, etc. However, I have to admit that Cariboos have the most soul. Huge, loud radial engines, oil leaks and a huge ramp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #32 October 9, 2006 QuoteAirplanes definitely need piston engines to have soul. Radial engines have more soul than horizontally-opposed engines, even if it is only because they have more of that "hot oil in the morning: smell. Fabric covering equals more soul and tail wheels equal even more soul: Beech 18s, DC-3, etc. However, I have to admit that Cariboos have the most soul. Huge, loud radial engines, oil leaks and a huge ramp. And then there are airplanes with Merlins! Spitfire, P51, Lancaster, Mosquito.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #33 October 9, 2006 Maybe your jumping it wrong then. SONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #34 October 9, 2006 OK, I concede. The caravan doesnt actually have soul. But it does have a special place in my heart. I love that aircraft. Do we all agree on the AN-2 and C-130?SONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #35 October 9, 2006 Here y'go mon... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #36 October 9, 2006 Quote OK, I concede. Woohoo! I've beaten you into submission I do think its a nice jump plane though. Definitely agreed on the AN-2 and C-130Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #37 October 9, 2006 I guess some weidos might think this has soul! http://www.beansouptimes.com/soul_plane.jpg .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidlayne 5 #38 October 9, 2006 Dragon Rapide had sole.I don't care how many skydives you've got, until you stepped into complete darkness at 800' wearing 95 lbs of equipment and 42 lbs of parachute, son you are still a leg! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #39 October 9, 2006 Airplanes are inanimate objects – they do not have souls… Do they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #40 October 9, 2006 There must be some aircraft that sticks in your head as your favourite to jump from. And i bet it isnt because of how fast it got there. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #41 October 9, 2006 You missed out the Nomad, thats got about as much soul as a bucket Take note Woodpecker, just because i done AFF out of it doesnt mean it has Soul! 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #42 October 10, 2006 QuoteThere must be some aircraft that sticks in your head as your favourite to jump from. And i bet it isnt because of how fast it got there. Ahhhhh, I get it... A lil old Cessna. Feels like being in a Volkswagen Bug driving through Colorado smokin'... Getting a Cessna jump at my DZ is a novelty. I have bumped off a Cessna load that turned into an Otterload. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #43 October 10, 2006 The Funny thing for me it is and always will be Porters, the though of jumping a porter puts a smile on my face and anticapation in my belly you need to go Jump Fgodz at Black nights Andy to understand Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #44 October 10, 2006 I'll definately have to jump one, it seems to be a favourite on this thread and it does look rather cool in the pictures 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #45 October 10, 2006 i did my crew course out of that monster. So fast to 8 grand you virtually didn't have time to sit down.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BannanaGirl 0 #46 October 10, 2006 An Airvan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinhawxhurst 0 #47 October 10, 2006 I don't have many jumps but we have some soul going on at our dz in Sweden. AN-2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BannanaGirl 0 #48 October 10, 2006 QuoteThe Funny thing for me it is and always will be Porters, the though of jumping a porter puts a smile on my face and anticapation in my belly you need to go Jump Fgodz at Black nights Andy to understand The SMG is a bit like a Porter but from what I have been told a bit more cramped and I can see the character in that plane for sure, the smell of aviation fuel after refueling, the intimate getting to know my fellow skydivers armpit smells cause we are so squashed up. It is also like a big old climbing frame, great fun and has a nice big step, like being a big kid again. As long as you were not one of the last groups out and stuck down the back it is a cool plane. The Dornier has soul for sure, can't put my finger on it but I liked that plane from the moment I got in it. Quick as to altitude and pretty spacey as far as jumpships go. The only thing is if you are on the bench on take off you slide down it so you have to hold on tight to the person in front of you! Ohh lalala I definately want to jump the PAC 750xl and the Beech99 only cause they look so damn sexy. Does'nt really matter to me if they have personality or not, I only want to ride them the once anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #49 October 10, 2006 QuoteI don't have many jumps but we have some soul going on at our dz in Sweden. AN-2AN-2 + Pinzgauer that's some serious soul scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highspeeddirt 0 #50 October 10, 2006 PILATUS PORTER(pilotless port o let!)! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites