propilot 0 #1 May 28, 2007 I happen to know a DZ in the NE that puts 55 Gallon drums of water in an otter to simulate landing with full loads during emergency landings. Wouldnt be hard to do with a cessna. When I first started flying jumpers in a C206, we did something similar with milk jugs filled with water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akjmpplt 0 #2 May 28, 2007 Hmmm. I have to wonder. If a pilot needs to practice with a loaded airplane to know there is a difference between light and heavy, perhaps that pilot isn't ready to fly paying passengers.SmugMug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #3 May 28, 2007 QuoteHmmm. I have to wonder. If a pilot needs to practice with a loaded airplane to know there is a difference between light and heavy, perhaps that pilot isn't ready to fly paying passengers. Knowing there is a difference and practicing are two different things. 182 jump pilots are often on there first job (although this guy apparently was not) and can usually use all the training/unusual situation practice they can get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #4 May 28, 2007 QuoteHmmm. I have to wonder. If a pilot needs to practice with a loaded airplane to know there is a difference between light and heavy, perhaps that pilot isn't ready to fly paying passengers. With that philosophy, the FAA could do away with flight training altogether and simply license pilots who pass the written test.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGore 0 #5 May 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteHmmm. I have to wonder. If a pilot needs to practice with a loaded airplane to know there is a difference between light and heavy, perhaps that pilot isn't ready to fly paying passengers. With that philosophy, the FAA could do away with flight training altogether and simply license pilots who pass the written test. With some of the pilots that I have seen over the years, I thought that they might have already done that. Several pilots that I have dealt with were great technical pilots and knew the regs backwards and forward. But put them behind a yoke and they were severely lacking. And something that you can't teach is to have an attitude were you are thinking ahead of what's going on right now. Our DZO takes really good care of the airplanes, but that is no guarantee that something isn't going to happen that is unforseen.GUNFIRE, The sound of Freedom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #6 May 29, 2007 QuoteHmmm. I have to wonder. If a pilot needs to practice with a loaded airplane to know there is a difference between light and heavy, perhaps that pilot isn't ready to fly paying passengers. Dale, while I can understand your point of view I don't think we can realisticly expect every pilot to intuit muscle memory just from talking about it. There is an aspect that we have to "do" to truly be ready for it. Otherwise wouldn't we just talk about stall practice rather than actually going out and having to do it in training?Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
