Andy_Copland 0 #1 June 8, 2007 If you are an "A" license jumper you pay 23 quid as opposed to 21 if you have a "B" or above. Whats with that? Is there something im not seeing here?1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #2 June 8, 2007 Pay for what, where? ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #3 June 8, 2007 I dont want to name the DZ really as it is second hand info but its just something im hearing right now and its ridiculous sounding, its for a jump ticket. I hope im wrong. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #4 June 8, 2007 Quote I dont want to name the DZ really as it is second hand info but its just something im hearing right now and its ridiculous sounding, its for a jump ticket. I hope im wrong. See here. There's a similar discussion going on on UKSkydiver.co.uk also. Edit: and since B certificate in the UK includes the Canopy Handling 2 grade, it does really pay to have it!Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #5 June 8, 2007 Lol, thanks Craig. I am having a whinge with Andy via IM. Strange though huh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #6 June 8, 2007 QuoteI asked them why and the answer was that they had problems with people not going for their B's and they couldn't get someone to Jumpmaster the load (different situation to the US, AFAIK. The plane must have a jumpmaster assigned and they must be a B license or above) They were having to put a staff member on the load to do that so added the charge to cover this / encourage people to get their qualifications. I'm not encouraged to get my B from that. Edit: Quoteand since B certificate in the UK includes the Canopy Handling 2 grade, it does really pay to have it! The title is related to prices, not canopy control.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #7 June 8, 2007 QuoteIf you are an "A" license jumper you pay 23 quid as opposed to 21 if you have a "B" or above. Whats with that? Is there something im not seeing here? Supply and demand generally takes care of pricing anomalies.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #8 June 8, 2007 Stay away from the "D" license and you're likely to live a nice long life. Those of us who have our "D"s are on borrowed days. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #9 June 8, 2007 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #10 June 9, 2007 Quote Supply and demand generally takes care of pricing anomalies. Exactly, if you don't like it don't jump there. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #11 June 11, 2007 Just so. I guess they feel that the pain in the arse of not having people to JM loads costs them more than customers who take it personally, and have done their own math. That said, "supply and demand" isn't strictly a law, though it's often quoted as such. Maybe commercial considerations are secondary to them over constantly reminding people, subtly that they should progress. A pound isn't a big deal money wise, but it's a reminder. Getting your CH2 and JM1 after your A makes you a better and safer jumper. Maybe they're doing it for your own good. Maybe they're not of course, but there are plenty of alternative explanations...-- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #12 June 11, 2007 40-45 dollars a jump..seems like it pays to stay in the usa and jump. Looks liek your getting fucked andy with no vaseline or foreplayhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomLemming 0 #13 June 11, 2007 That sounds like Headcorn. To be fair, I see their point. And anything to get my full face would be great because my prescription goggles are starting to fall apart. I just wish they did more to help us get our Bs... like low passes on a regular basis or something similar. The 2 JM sessions this year were great, but there's not been a lot since, and when there is jumping happening, they don't really have people to spare for JM instruction, spotting practice or packing checking. Ah well... these things happen :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #14 June 11, 2007 Or the BPA could just let us jump full face helmets with an A license1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomLemming 0 #15 June 11, 2007 Apparently you can jump a full face in SA without a B, but it's all a bit weird here. To be honest, that is my sole motivation for wanting to get my B, so maybe it is a good thing. It's just a pity the B is so hard to get at most DZs. Horrific as this may sound, I have a lot of other things that I have to do besides skydiving. I work 1 - 2 weekends a month and I still have a house to maintain, so I can't really spend that much bad weather time at the DZ - I need that time for gardening, DIY, work, etc. I prefer to be there for the good weather days, but that's not the time to be trying to get people's undivided attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #16 June 11, 2007 I see their point, but if I was the B holder in question I would be unwilling to be the JM on the load unless I got the pound from the newbies. Isn't there a fatality case in UK lately where the JM is being held responsible for the A holder not turning on their opener.i cannot imagine accepting that kind or responsibility at a commercial centre without being paid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites