darkwing 5 #26 November 23, 2004 Quotei've witnessed more incidents than i can count on 2 hands (not involving me) that alot of people could learn something from if they were posted in this forum. i can assure you i am never posting anything in this forum again no matter what the incident or who it involves or what can be learned from it. now please......... end of discussion. It is unfortunate that you and they are not tough enough to take some deserved "you are a dumbass" to provide negative reinforcement to both you and others. I bet that there isn't a jumper alive who has been jumping for a few years who hasn't done something they wish they hadn't. Me included. I should be called a dumbass in public, for my sake and for the sake of the beginners who haven't made all of my mistakes. If I did it I ought to be man enough to stand up to the public heat. I owe it to others. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #27 November 23, 2004 Quote absolutely! for example when swooping in high winds you have to let off the risers a little higher because the wind pushing on the top of your canopy wants to keep you in a dive. That's a myth. In steady winds your canopy doesn't care what the wind direction and speed are. Those factors only become relevant when you want to put your feet down. A head wind inreases your angle of decent relative to the ground. You intuitively level out when you're coming down steep and the ground is close, although your canopy has the same recovery arc and doing so isn't necessary. Just don't respond to those visual cues the same way when there is no wind. Gusts have different effects, although in gusty conditions you don't want to be in a steep dive (the nose can fold under) so it doesn't matter. Quote QuoteNo, but you can slide that fast. Get your feet down (while still flying the canopy) and start taking some weight on your feet. That will let you slow down to 10mph, and then you can run it out. but that's assuming the grass is mowed. if the grass is more than 3 inches high then it may not be possible to to do a 15mph standing up double feet slide. On level ground it's definately possible to slide when the groundskeepers have been negligent. The problems are having a harder time figuring out where the ground really is (you have to feel not look) and you can't see holes/bumps that can stop your feet (OW). Quote what if you have to land on concrete. You did a bad job picking your landing area and will be choosing between jumpsuit holes (and perhaps some skin) or a face plant. Quote QuoteThat's just one of them. Others are: -Don't land downwind true, but it's good to know how to land downwind. one day you might find yourself in a situation where you have to land downwind. Unintentional down-wind landings are almost always the result of poor planning, not paying attention to what's happening, or having too few tricks in your tool box. You almost always have the altitude for a flat 180 degree turn or the space for a > 90 degree flare turn for a quartering landing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #28 November 23, 2004 QuoteIt is unfortunate that you and they are not tough enough to take some deserved "you are a dumbass" to provide negative reinforcement to both you and others. I bet that there isn't a jumper alive who has been jumping for a few years who hasn't done something they wish they hadn't. Me included. I should be called a dumbass in public, for my sake and for the sake of the beginners who haven't made all of my mistakes. If I did it I ought to be man enough to stand up to the public heat. I owe it to others. obviously it's easier to say that than actually stepping up to the plate. looking down the list of incident threads, i don't see your name anywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #29 November 24, 2004 yah, i think we covered all this already, but thanks for chiming in. next time please read the entire thread first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #30 November 24, 2004 Quotenow please......... end of discussion. Your wish is my command. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #31 November 25, 2004 >and by doing so you leave everyone else to draw the conclusion that >you are an incompetent dumbass since you did not come back and > defend yourself. This is NOT the place to post your experiences if you want your ego stroked. Skydiving is a dangerous sport, and when you make mistakes, you can be injured or killed; gravity doesn't care what your friends think of you. Learning from your mistakes is one way to keep that from happening. This is exactly what this forum is for; you get out of it what you put into it. I know three people who are alive and walking today because of what they learned here. But for that to work, you have to come here with the idea that you still have things to learn, that other people might have useful advice for you. If you come here willing to learn, you can get a lot out of this place. If you come here wanting to prove that you're a competent, smart guy who already knows what he needs to know, you won't get as much out of it. Up to you. >now please......... >end of discussion. Looks like we're there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites