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:)I used to jump back in the early 70's and have wanted to return to skydiving for some time now. When I quit back then I had about 2000 jumps and all the numbers. My last jump was about 2 years ago when my son did a tandem jump and I tagged along. So now I want to jump again and I was wondering if any of you had a similar experience and how adjusting to the way skydiving is done nowadays? Thanks to all of you who have posted on this site, I have learned a great deal just reading and I look forward to reading your replies.
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John
D-2626, SCR1999, SCS641, NSCR2350, GW6909

Blue Skies!!!!!!

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I was out for 16 years. Getting back into skydiving is the best t hing I ever did.

Yes some things have changed. People fall in all sorts of postions... on purpose.. there more than just belly flying! Canopies have changed from the old days and the throw out pilot chute is on the bottom of your container like a pud.

Things change - so what - you'll adapt - I did.

It's all good. :)
"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

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I started in 1973, and was very active in the 1970's. Jumped a little in the 80's, multi-year layoff in the 90's and started up again in 2001. Getting back into it was the best thing I ever did too. Check out my history page.

-- Jeff
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After 22 years off my first jump scared the crap out of me all over again, the whole "oh my god, I'm gonna JUMP outta this plane", dry mouth and all. But when you step out the door, it all comes back. Not like you never left, you will be rusty as hell for a few jumps. Definitely do a bunch of solos and 2 Ways to get your basic skills back. AND TAKE A CANOPY COURSE ASAP !! Canopies have changed way too much, they're nothing like the Strato Star/Strato Cloud generation you may remember. Even a student Navigator will blow the doors off anything you can remember. Today's canopies are nothing to fool around with, so shell out the bucks and get yourself into a daylong canopy course at the first opportunity.

I think you'll like the way things have changed. It hasn't gotten any cheaper though....

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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I was out for ten years and just returned this year. The drop zone changed owners twice while I was away, all new people, new plane and they do this thing called 'Freeflying" now. Its nice to be back though.:)
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AND TAKE A CANOPY COURSE ASAP !! Canopies have changed way too much, they're nothing like the Strato Star/Strato Cloud generation you may remember. Even a student Navigator will blow the doors off anything you can remember. Today's canopies are nothing to fool around with, so shell out the bucks and get yourself into a daylong canopy course at the first opportunity.



This is very good advice.

A 100-jump F-111 canopy would be able to sink the last 10-feet without stalling whereas a ZP canopy will just stall and drop you that last 10-feet like a stone. Good thing I was trained to perform the PLF without a second thought when things go awry. Go for the canopy class.

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After 22 years off my first jump scared the crap out of me all over again, the whole "oh my god, I'm gonna JUMP outta this plane", dry mouth and all. But when you step out the door, it all comes back. Not like you never left, you will be rusty as hell for a few jumps. Definitely do a bunch of solos and 2 Ways to get your basic skills back. AND TAKE A CANOPY COURSE ASAP !! Canopies have changed way too much, they're nothing like the Strato Star/Strato Cloud generation you may remember. Even a student Navigator will blow the doors off anything you can remember. Today's canopies are nothing to fool around with, so shell out the bucks and get yourself into a daylong canopy course at the first opportunity.

I think you'll like the way things have changed. It hasn't gotten any cheaper though....



Good advice. Doesn't help much for the first jump(s) back though. I've been out 27 years and will be making some jumps at the end of the month. From observing it would not appear that the large student type canopies are moving any faster than the Strato-Stars of old, should I expect the canopy to scare the crap out of me (I thought it would just be the jump)? I have 650 Strato-Star jumps and a bunch of Para-Plane, Cloud, original Foil, and original Sled jumps as well. I weigh 185lbs and was thinking that a rental 210 (whatever) would be fairly docile and as easy to land as my Star was (135lbs then). No?

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FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

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I've been out 27 years and will be making some jumps at the end of the month.



Welcome back!

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I weigh 185lbs and was thinking that a rental 210 (whatever) would be fairly docile



185 weight + 030 gear = 215

WL's:
210 = 1.02:1 (I would not start here after so long a loayoff)
230 = .91:1
260 = .83:1

Of course you will be doing some training with an AFFI right? Take your instructors advice.
Mykel AFF-I10
Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat…

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I've been out 27 years and will be making some jumps at the end of the month.



Welcome back!

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I weigh 185lbs and was thinking that a rental 210 (whatever) would be fairly docile



185 weight + 030 gear = 215

WL's:
210 = 1.02:1 (I would not start here after so long a loayoff)
230 = .91:1
260 = .83:1

Of course you will be doing some training with an AFFI right? Take your instructors advice.



Thanks. 210 was off the top of my AFFI's head, he does not know what I weigh yet. From your chart, I would elect the 230 as that is the same loading my Strato was (30 years and 50 lbs ago...). I am extremely fit though, the extra weight has to do with not being skinny anymore and being a competative water-skier.

I will be doing my re-cert with Carl Daugherty, AFFI, Deland Safety Adviser and veteran of more than 16000 jumps. Also, he and I were both in the worlds first 16 man diamond* together and have many many jumps with each other.

*Ok, 16 way, but everyone said 16 man back then and thought nothing of it even though there were often ladies in them.

I expect to be nervous on the initial part of the jump, but I was not expecting someone to say the canopies were so different that they might scare me. I mean first jump students are riding them, right?

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Roger "Ramjet" Clark
FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

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I expect to be nervous on the initial part of the jump, but I was not expecting someone to say the canopies were so different that they might scare me. I mean first jump students are riding them, right?



No, it's the going back up in de plane and realizing you're going to jump again. Your mileage may vary, but even though I really wanted to jump I felt like a first jump student all over again. As for the canopies, you have a lot more prior experience with the old ones than I did and some of those older ones were awfully touchy and could stall without any warning, etc. But sadly, it is easier to get hurt, or killed under today's canopies than the older generation types. I did a couple really dumb things in the seventies with 5 cells and 7 cells that I actually got up and walked away from that I think just might kill me if I made the same mistake nowadays with my Pilot.

I stand by what I said, anybody who's been out for a long time, long enough to predate Zero P canopies, should take a canopy course, it can save them a lot of pain and suffering.

And by the way, welcome back !

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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I expect to be nervous on the initial part of the jump, but I was not expecting someone to say the canopies were so different that they might scare me. I mean first jump students are riding them, right?



No, it's the going back up in de plane and realizing you're going to jump again. Your mileage may vary, but even though I really wanted to jump I felt like a first jump student all over again. As for the canopies, you have a lot more prior experience with the old ones than I did and some of those older ones were awfully touchy and could stall without any warning, etc. But sadly, it is easier to get hurt, or killed under today's canopies than the older generation types. I did a couple really dumb things in the seventies with 5 cells and 7 cells that I actually got up and walked away from that I think just might kill me if I made the same mistake nowadays with my Pilot.

I stand by what I said, anybody who's been out for a long time, long enough to predate Zero P canopies, should take a canopy course, it can save them a lot of pain and suffering.

And by the way, welcome back !



Thanks for the followup reply. Yes, I have (had) a lot of experience on some pretty strange squares from those days. Before I was christened "Ramjet," a lot of the locals at Z-Hills called me Roger Ramair since I jumped every square I could get my hands on once I had 100 jumps (the minimum requirement at Z-Hills to jump a square). Some of those babies could indeed stall or even turn without much help from the rider, and talk about hard openings (if you could get them to open that is)...

As for the canopy course, I agree completely. Too bad we had no such thing back then. Even without swooping, many people had no idea how to handle their squares or recognize and deal with a mal. Jim Hooper was ASO during my time at the Hills and had me give a safety talk to the square pilots before one of the Turkey meets because people were not handling mals or even flying the canopies with much common sense. I think I had 50 or 60 square jumps at the time and was considered the seasoned square pilot... Oh well, a total novice by today's standards :)

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Roger "Ramjet" Clark
FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

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Well I bought a rig, got a PD210 main and a Swift 175 reserve, my USPA membership also arrived today and I've been watching skydiving video's (over and over)for the last week. I feel like a small child waiting for Christmas morning. Hoping for some early spring like weather here in NE Ohio and if it dosent come soon I may have to go south. One of the vedeo's I've been watching was from the WFFC at Rantoul Il. have you been there??? I look forward to seeing you all there!
Blue Skies
John
D-2626, SCR1999, SCS641, NSCR2350, GW6909

Blue Skies!!!!!!

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You'll take to jumping again like a duck to water. 1900 jumps was a ton of jumps for back then.

I too started jumping back in the early 70's and made about 300 jumps then. I quit for about ten years then made a few jumps, then quit again for another 15. So, I was more or less out of the sport for 25 years. Yes, life was boring during those years.

A friend of mine owned a DZ where we had a reunion boogie. I had no intention of ever jumping again, but came to see some old friends. Many of my pals were still in the sport. I figured I had to try it again. I ended up with about 20 minutes of training and then went up and fell base for a five way. Everything went fine. You never forget how to fall stable and Relative Work skills will come right back to you. You'll love the feeling of being in the air again. All the new gear is great! It beats the hell out of jumping with a B-12 container and a paracommander.

Welcome back, brother!....Steve1

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:)Here I am 70 jumps after my return to skydiving. I'm having a ball!! I've jumped from a hot air balloon, super otter, caravan, c-182 and c-185. I've done some freeflying, lots of RW, show jumps and more. I cannot express how much fun I've been having. Jumper's young and old have graciously accepted me as one of there own. Everyone has helped me along, offering advice and assistance. The flying skills I had have come back albeit rusty.
So if your thinking about returning to skydiving don't hesitate, start this weekend, go out to your local drop zone introduce your self and make a jump.
Thanks To All
Blue Skies
John
D-2626, SCR1999, SCS641, NSCR2350, GW6909

Blue Skies!!!!!!

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