slotperfect 7 #26 September 13, 2007 [warning] PAs are not allowed in the forums. This includes blanket PAs directed at a group of users. [/warning]Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #27 September 13, 2007 Quote[ The Army found it more cost effective to run two jump schools in Panama conducted by 3d Bn 7th SFG(A) then to send the people back to Ft Benning.. ...................................................................... I remember seeing S.F. soldiers with foreign jump wings (back in the early 70's). If I remember right there was also a jump school in Vietnam for Vietnamese troops....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #28 September 13, 2007 Quote You guys are so full of yourselves I want to puke up the Constitution. You're all such a bunch of fucking heroes! I joined the Marine Corps because I was drafted into the Army at 18 in 1971 . . . And I didn’t want to be a dogface. My generation carried the water when Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and Marines were shit on by everybody. NickD BASE 194 So...if I got my Draft notice while I was in Navy bootcamp at NTC....does that preclude me from being a punk ? I dont remember carrying any water, Nick, but I carried a lot of KIAs. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #29 September 13, 2007 Quote Quote You guys are so full of yourselves I want to puke up the Constitution. You're all such a bunch of fucking heroes! I joined the Marine Corps because I was drafted into the Army at 18 in 1971 . . . And I didn’t want to be a dogface. My generation carried the water when Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and Marines were shit on by everybody. NickD BASE 194 So...if I got my Draft notice while I was in Navy bootcamp at NTC....does that preclude me from being a punk ? That depends...does it have anything to do with skydiving?Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #30 September 13, 2007 Quote Quote Quote You guys are so full of yourselves I want to puke up the Constitution. You're all such a bunch of fucking heroes! I joined the Marine Corps because I was drafted into the Army at 18 in 1971 . . . And I didn’t want to be a dogface. My generation carried the water when Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and Marines were shit on by everybody. NickD BASE 194 So...if I got my Draft notice while I was in Navy bootcamp at NTC....does that preclude me from being a punk ? That depends...does it have anything to do with skydiving? Nothing whatsoever. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #31 September 13, 2007 Quote Quote That depends...does it have anything to do with skydiving? Nothing whatsoever. Didn't think so. Topic please guys Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #32 September 13, 2007 Quote Didn't think so. Topic please guys Good point... I was starting to feel left out because the best I can do is produce my Selective Service Registration Card and all-in-all I think Bozo and Nick are pretty good people. Anyway, WRT to the Master Parachutist badge... if I'm not mistaken, the Senior Parachutist badge (?) - Jump Wings with a Star ABOVE the canopy and the Master Parachutist Badge - Start with a circle (wreath ?) around it ABOVE the canopy both post-date WW2? Up until then, it was just the Parachutist badge and then maybe starts (mustard stains) on the shroud lines, or on the wings, to denote numbers of actual, no-shit, combat jumps (i.e. jumps into a combat zone). I'm certainly not an expert, but I think there were some individuals that got 3 or 4 combat jumps in WW2 and I'm sure I ran across the story of an individual (started out enlisted, finished up as a Warrant Officer... if I'm remembering the story correctly) that got 4 Combat Jumps in WW2 and one in Vietnam, for a total of 5 Combat Jumps in his airborne career. I don't think anyone has been awarded more then 5 Combat jumps... mostly because I cannot find on the internet how that would be denoted on their jump wings, but I could be worng. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #33 September 14, 2007 QuoteUp until then, it was just the Parachutist badge and then maybe starts (mustard stains) on the shroud lines, or on the wings, to denote numbers of actual, no-shit, combat jumps There is actually a Glider badge that one could potentialy have gotten back in WWII along with the various versions of jump wings. AR-670-1, Chapter 29-17, fig 29-44 on page 294 depicts how many and where the stars are placed on the jump wings."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #34 September 14, 2007 When I was an Army Parachute Rigger at Ft Bragg from early 1988 to 1994. It was great as I had the chance to make many many jumps from all sorts of A/C. Some days, some nights, even combat equipment. Some from 130's, 141's, and various other helicopters. That did not include the GB clubs weekend events for fun (Skydiving), And Yes, I even had waited in those long lines on Sicily to do the morning fun jumps from the 130.. The only real issue was the person in HQ who just wanted to log jumps for that Hazard pay that being log one here and log one here another month or tow. When I was doing an average of five a month if not more,. And on deployments it was good to get out and jump more also.. In the end I ended up with a some of over two hundred static line jumps plus the sky diving.. I do miss the military: I do offten thing of the good old days of that night mass tac with a fifty pound ruck and all. As when I finally got my chance to go to Jumpmaster school at Mcdill. I loved it even more, there you learned to safely put the jumpers out and being a rigger that was a great asset since we dealt with the gear every day and just doing it was something that I will always chairish. But the real treat was actually being the JM or safety on a night jump, standing in that door at 800 feet... I dont know what is more pleasing this or doing a skydive... the verdict can not be reached even to this day, except in skydiving you dont have that long briefing call _ Pre Jump....and mock door exits etc.. Enjoyed it and would say "You have to try it to buy it" Support our troops.. Just my two pennies on this area.. Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #35 September 14, 2007 Quote But the real treat was actually being the JM or safety on a night jump, standing in that door at 800 feet... I dont know what is more pleasing this or doing a skydive... reply] .................................................... One thing about memories is that nobody can take them away from you. I think some of my fondest times were jumpmastering a load of jumpers out of a C-130 or 141. And to think that you got paid for doing a job like that, (and the jumps were free). I kind of wish I had stayed in. I could have retired almost 20 years ago....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kenneth21441 0 #36 September 14, 2007 Steve, Very true and while you get older alot of the younger people around you cant or will not believe all that we have seen and done. This still gests me,... But I know what and where Ive been, While on the other hand they have not left home yet..hahaha.. Ken..Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #37 September 17, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteI meant to say Special Forces Jump Master school in my last post. There was no such thing as Special Forces Jump school. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually there was a Special Forces Jump School. Back in the early 80s a new airborne unit was formed in the Republic of Panama and it was assigned to the 193d Inf Brigade. The Army found it more cost effective to run two jump schools in Panama conducted by 3d Bn 7th SFG(A) then to send the people back to Ft Benning. Actually, we used to run two jump school classes per year on Fort Bragg every summer up until about ten years ago. Those classes were run entirely by special forces soldiers primarilly from the 7th SFG. I was in B/1/7 back then and worked two of those courses. The students were primarilly military academy cadets. We ran them during the time they are there on Bragg for summer camp. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #38 September 20, 2007 Quote As a former Marine it's always seemed to me in the Army if you take a crap in the woods they have a patch or device for it . . . NickD BASE 194 General Conway's Uniform is no slouch either...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
kenneth21441 0 #36 September 14, 2007 Steve, Very true and while you get older alot of the younger people around you cant or will not believe all that we have seen and done. This still gests me,... But I know what and where Ive been, While on the other hand they have not left home yet..hahaha.. Ken..Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #37 September 17, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteI meant to say Special Forces Jump Master school in my last post. There was no such thing as Special Forces Jump school. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually there was a Special Forces Jump School. Back in the early 80s a new airborne unit was formed in the Republic of Panama and it was assigned to the 193d Inf Brigade. The Army found it more cost effective to run two jump schools in Panama conducted by 3d Bn 7th SFG(A) then to send the people back to Ft Benning. Actually, we used to run two jump school classes per year on Fort Bragg every summer up until about ten years ago. Those classes were run entirely by special forces soldiers primarilly from the 7th SFG. I was in B/1/7 back then and worked two of those courses. The students were primarilly military academy cadets. We ran them during the time they are there on Bragg for summer camp. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #38 September 20, 2007 Quote As a former Marine it's always seemed to me in the Army if you take a crap in the woods they have a patch or device for it . . . NickD BASE 194 General Conway's Uniform is no slouch either...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
