steveorino 7 #51 October 2, 2007 Yeah, there is some real misleading stuff on that website. Let's all get anal about it! Before your jump, you will have a 15 minute class on how to help your instructor make your skydive the safest and most exciting skydive! If I drop my feet and sprain my ankle can I sue? After all you said it was safe. And what if it isn't exciting? Can I get my money back? Walking to the airplane comes next and it may be the most intimidating part. You are not quite sure what to expect as you climb into your seat in the airplane. I suppose this leaves Cessna out as they have no seats. If we have to fly the Cessna, can I get part of my money back? And if I don't find this intimidating (walking to the plane) is there a discount? At about 3000 feet (3 minutes after takeoff), you will start your scenic flight over the desert. Is there a refund if it is say 3 minutes and 30 seconds?You will see the Harrah's Casino, the beautiful Arizona mountains, the Phoenix Skyline and much more. Discounts for fog/smog? Don’t forget to ask about your in-flight meal. Are peanuts still a meal? It's free with every skydive. At 5000 feet, your instructor may show you his altimeter and tell you this is the altitude he will be opening the parachute. If mine selects to not do this can I get $5 back? I feel this is important. Enthusiastic first timers may be able to pull the parachute themselves so be sure to ask if you are interested. Finally, over two miles above the ground, your instructor will ask you to assist him in getting ready for the skydive. Does that thingy on his wrist measure "miles" If it measures in the Euro metric crap, I want a refund! You will know it's time to go when the door opens and the wind comes whirling through the plane. Right before you jump the camera will be pointing at you as you look back into the plane at your friends. READY,,, SETCan we make a guarantee as well? My friend loaned me his ProTrack (some little computer that will tell me the speed and freefall time) I'd like apartial refund if we don't get 40 seconds or 120 mph You feel like you are flying as your video camera captures it all. CanI get another refund if I don't actually feel like I'm flying? I mean, can get a total refund if I "feel' like I'm falling? When your parachute opens, you will feel the wind stop and you will be peacefully floating down from 5000 feet. any refunds if I puke? Your parachute ride lasts about 7 minutes. I'm putting a stop watch on ya! You can steer the parachute and ask your instructor questions about the jump. Remember to look around at all the beautiful scenery but don’t worry because your video will capture everything. everything? my canopy opening shot as well? Great! Cause if not, well, you know. I want a refund! Landing back at the landing area will surprise you with the ease that people land their parachutes. When you watch, you will see them landing as if they were stepping off of their front porch. $50 back if we slide, right? When you are done, you can enjoy a refreshment and a sandwich at the Airport Tavern. Now you will be ready for Accelerated Freefall. I can't wait, but I hope that sandwhich isn't bologna! (like this whole thread) /sarcastic rant. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raymond_jones 0 #52 October 2, 2007 Quote Quote you are about as observant as a ant about to get stepped on Nice PA, but anyway ... You made my point. You have an agenda, and it isn't to preserve the purity of advertisement in the world of skydiving. Others have indicated that as well. My point is further proved that you believe "truth in advertising" applies to your DZ's competition and others but not you, Mister 1 year and 666 jumps ... my @#$ just yanking your chain man. Lighten up, it is only a forum thread. steve-ooooo, your a pretty cool kat. sorry for any insults, but when the phone rings a 1:30am and wakes my ass up to hear a message from a subject......... anyway, im not advertising anything to make money from others so my profile on here shouldn't be an issue. but for $49.45 id be more than happy to update it. please makes checks payable to........"your the shit till you eat it !!!!!!!! damn that wall hurts..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichardCranium 0 #53 October 2, 2007 stevorino, sorry I got you upset. I know you are a resonable guy, but for some reason you are defending a dz that is putting bad stuff on their web site and I dont know why. Of course we have seen worse, like skyride, but where do you call the line? Not the stuff you were doing with the sarcasm. The 2 STA stuff is bullshit. It is like saying you are safer if you use 2 condoms. how about this--- After you graduate from our 9 jump AFP Program you will be able to jump on your own and experience the thrill of flying. After this you can try freeflying(vertical flying), skyboarding, or even the new birdman suit. This is bad stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #54 October 2, 2007 All right guys, I'm not upset. The booger about forum threads. You can't tell someone is yanking your chain. I thought that is what I was doing with my first response. Sorry about that. Maybe I have a knee jerk reaction when I see someone calling out a legit DZ. My DZO was called out about safety issues when it was more about a personal beef. This is not to say my DZ or my DZO is perfect, just like I'm sure the marketing statements are a bit misleading to the whuffo. But to insinuate someone is a skyride scammer is over the line IMHO. About the statement in question. After you graduate from our 9 jump AFP Program you will be able to jump on your own and experience the thrill of flying. After this you can try freeflying(vertical flying), skyboarding, or even the new birdman suit Grammatically it is correct. AFTER you graduate you will be able to jump solo. AFTER THIS (unspecified # of solo jumps -- see the marketing tool?) you can be a birdman, etc. the TWO (2) "AFTERS" make it a correct, albeit confusing to a whuffo, statement. I guess from a marketing standpoint it makes sense. Although it is on the line. But so is "we have the best staff!" That is fairly subjective, but who wants to read "our staff will do." No offense intended, non taken "It's all good" - Toby Keith steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #55 October 2, 2007 we're cool. I'm not offended. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites