mediahqs 0 #1 October 19, 2007 I was referred to this site by a very friendly skydiver from Toronto (thank you!) and I may have already spoken to a lot of you. Thank you for your help- the skydiving community seems like a very fun, kind bunch! I work for a great television production comapny in Toronto and we are casting families for our second season of "Outlaw In-laws" on SLICE Network. We are looking for diverse, interesting new stories. In particular we are searching for a family who is having differences with their in- laws concerning their skydiving hobby! Perhaps they think you are crazy for such a dangerous love? Perhaps you have influenced their darling child (your spouse) to take up the hobby to? Perhaps they don't understand the expense!? Or they have the grandchildren in mind?? Is your love of Skydiving a source of stress/debates? Is it affecting your relationship/marriage? The show is fun, insightful and informative. Families chosen to participate are also financially compensated for their time. If this sounds like it applies to you, please contact me for more information. If it doesn't apply to you but sounds like someone you know, please pass it along. Thank you and I look forward to hearing from any of you!! The stories I have heard so far have been fascinating!! Best, Rennata Researcher- Media Headquarters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #2 October 19, 2007 So it's like Jerry Springer from the Great White North. Aay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hackish 8 #3 October 19, 2007 Never heard of the slice network. Of course I'm in Ottawa not TO. I do know there is a lot of conflict with some skydiving families but I've found the right woman and there is never any confict. Sorry no good TV material for me... Unfortunately this request comes at the wrong time of year... Most of the skydiving places are closed now. Maybe go down to a dropzone - get your network to pay for a tandem so you can understand the sport you're going to do a show on... -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mediahqs 0 #4 October 19, 2007 I am not sure if my replies are going through and I am sorry if i repeat myself:) No we are not like Jerry Springer at all...lol, more like Nanny 911 for grown ups. SLICE Network is a Canadian channel, mostly directed at woman/families. No, I am not a troll- just someone directed here by a great skydiver I met on facebook- they told me this would be a great place to meet skydivers. I don't mean to offend anyone.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JeepDiver 0 #5 October 19, 2007 http://www.slice.ca/ Outlaw In-Laws Episode Guide The House Pest Alberta is a mooching mother-in-law who tests the patience of her son-in-law Steve and his wife Elizabeth. Alberta's weekend visits can go on for weeks and her pushy behavior puts everyone in the house on edge, including the grandkids. While this "house pest" is oblivious to her imposing ways, son-in-law Steve is ready to blow. In this episode, Ellie lays down the law and challenges the family to define boundaries that work for everyone. The Meddling Mother In-Law” Son In-Law Tim is passionate about car-racing -- and it’s driving his Mother-in-law Donna around the bend. Donna wants her son-in-law to get his priorities straight, quit racing and turn his energies towards his family. However Tim says he isn’t ready to throw in the towel and he is fed up with Donna’s interfering opinions and meddling ways. These two in-laws are in crisis and only Ellie can help them get back on track. The Man in the Middle James and Amanda are young newlyweds trying to live in wedded bliss, but they have a serious problem: mother-in-law Linda refuses to welcome Amanda into the family. Linda thinks her new daughter-in-law Amanda is unworthy and she won't let go of the apron springs when it comes to her eldest son, James. The two in-laws are in a vicious battle for James' time and attention and it’s tearing him apart. In this episode, Ellie must put an end to this tug-of-war and show the family how to work together as team. Who's the Boss? Lutz and Nicky call their home "The Zoo"--a blended family of six children, three dogs, two cats, and, last but not least, Renata, Lutz's 66-year-old mother. Nicky didn’t realize that marrying Lutz also meant marrying her old-fashioned mother-in-law, Renata. Nicky and Renata spend all day together but have opposite philosophies on how to run a family home. They are locked in a destructive battle over whose way is the right way and the stress is threatening to break the entire family apart. By getting Nicky and Renata to see each other in a new light, Ellie helps this family move in the right direction. Great topics!! is family strife and conflict required? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites UDSkyJunkie 0 #6 October 19, 2007 skydiving has enough bad press that we don't deserve, we hardly need help getting more. Please leave."Some people follow their dreams, others hunt them down and beat them mercilessly into submission." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #7 October 19, 2007 Quote Great topics!! is family strife and conflict required? I think it's stupid. Are they still showing the Wife Swapping program on TV? Stupidest shit I've ever seen. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites labrys 0 #8 October 19, 2007 So... when someone offers an oportunity that might present a chance to explain the reasons whuffos and skydivers sometimes experience strife in home life, and possibly even present it in a way that makes other whuffos sympathetic, everyone grabs pitchforks and lights torches? And then they bitch more about the negative press. Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chris-Ottawa 0 #9 October 19, 2007 Hey guys, All I have to say is WOW! Why is everyone being such pricks to this person, I mean, I know it's the DZ.com way, but seriously. We can all get our point across without bashing this person who may or may not be doing his/her job. I don't really think the idea is that great because as someone above posted, it will likely end up turning into more negative press for a sport that deserves none of it. However, consider this person's position. I have a sister in Toronto, I live in Ottawa, we both skydive. Skydiving has done nothing but bring us closer, it is common ground between us. We used to be somewhat distant and I've never been closer to her and to my parents, I associate it solely to skydiving. For any Canadians...the most recent Canpara had an article about a girl who saw her brother jump, got a packing job and has now decided to start jumping. That is my sister! (See page 24 of Oct/Nov 07 issue). And wouldn't you look at that, I'm in the picture....FAMILY, on my sisters first jump! Who would have though? So seriously, if you're just going to bitch, keep your mouth shut, I don't want to hear it and I'm sure others don't either. Can you only imagine the outlook that this person now has of skydivers? Talk about bad press, read the headline " Skydivers are a bunch of pricks". I honestly have never met such a bunch of hostile people in my life. I think you guys should all consider an apology to this person. Good god!"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DSE 5 #10 October 19, 2007 it's probably relevant to an anonymous poster exploiting the sport without offering much information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites millertime24 8 #11 October 19, 2007 QuoteHey guys, All I have to say is WOW! Why is everyone being such pricks to this person, I mean, I know it's the DZ.com way, but seriously. We can all get our point across without bashing this person who may or may not be doing his/her job. I don't really think the idea is that great because as someone above posted, it will likely end up turning into more negative press for a sport that deserves none of it. However, consider this person's position. I have a sister in Toronto, I live in Ottawa, we both skydive. Skydiving has done nothing but bring us closer, it is common ground between us. We used to be somewhat distant and I've never been closer to her and to my parents, I associate it solely to skydiving. For any Canadians...the most recent Canpara had an article about a girl who saw her brother jump, got a packing job and has now decided to start jumping. That is my sister! (See page 24 of Oct/Nov 07 issue). And wouldn't you look at that, I'm in the picture....FAMILY, on my sisters first jump! Who would have though? So seriously, if you're just going to bitch, keep your mouth shut, I don't want to hear it and I'm sure others don't either. Can you only imagine the outlook that this person now has of skydivers? Talk about bad press, read the headline " Skydivers are a bunch of pricks". I honestly have never met such a bunch of hostile people in my life. I think you guys should all consider an apology to this person. Good god! OMFG How long did it take you to type all that?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites labrys 0 #12 October 19, 2007 Quoteit's probably relevant to an anonymous poster exploiting the sport without offering much information? Sure, I get that. What I don't get is why these guys chose to respond with hostility instead of just ignoring it or asking for more information. I have to add this: The OP gave a first name and the name of company they worked for and also explained in pretty clear words what they wanted and why they were here. What more information would you have liked them to give? How is this poster any more anonymous than anyone else here? I kind of doubt they had a clue what to put in their profile, it's mostly skydiving related. Is it really understandable to suggest someone jump out of a plane with no rig because they didn't list a home DZ and a wingloading?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chris-Ottawa 0 #13 October 19, 2007 Troll or not....I took a few seconds and enlisted the power of google. http://www.fsatoronto.com/programs/lgbt/LGBTnewsJuly07.html#slice Do a search for "Rennata Lopez" on these pages: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0484016/combined http://swedish.imdb.com/title/tt0889206/combined http://imdb.com/title/tt0841170/fullcredits You're all so damned worried about your negative press....guess what you just caused. More reason for the media to report "NEGATIVE SKYDIVING PRESS" Oh, and based on the PM's I'm getting, it seems as though I've hurt some people's precious feelings....whoops! How does it feel? Hahah. Chris"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #14 October 19, 2007 I couldn't agree more...with both side (without the hostility) The OP may represent the Media but ytou don't have to be douchebags to him/her. I see each media interest as a CHANCE to put a positive story out there. I've had my fair share of good press printed but this is NOT good press for skydivers. Reality shows are not good press for ANYONE. Still, there is no reason to piss on the OP. A simple refusal of the offer is good enough and a CALM explanation why would do MUCH better than going batshit on the person who CAN give you bad press. no matter how you like EACH ONE OF US represent skydiving as a whole just ads Skymama said the OP represents the Media. MEDIAHQS, GENERALLY speaking S kydiviers are a good fun loving bunch with tight knit groups of family and friends. Unfortunately, sensationalism in the media has painted us as death wishing, death defying, risk-taking, drug addicts. The only thin I am is a CALCULATED risk taker. I wouldn't do this show if I was a canadian simply because there is no good thing that I can forsee coming from it...as a skydiver OR as a regular person. Don;t let the piss and vinegar sway you away from trying a skydive for yourself..>WITH A PARACHUTE. We don't need any more bad press. Check out a DZ in your area and see if you can jump. at the very least you will get some person interaction with REAL skydivers. not just a bunhc hot handed internet posters.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DSE 5 #15 October 19, 2007 Hostility now on both sides.My take as someone who works in the media world: Don't show up without all the pertinent information, expecting everyone wants to be a star just because you've got some juice. Skydiving community is media-shy for the most part. And having said that, any skydiver that allows the media to portray them where they don't have final cut...they're begging for trouble. It's in the writer/editor's best interest to create diametric viewpoints in this sort of show; no matter what...someone is gonna look really bad. It's the nature of the beast. We need a hero and a villian in everything we see. While I don't agree with it, a more or less anonymous post asking skydivers to become TV stars should expect a little hostility. For all you know...*I'm* the one posting as Renata Lopez. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lippy 918 #16 October 20, 2007 Sorry about the BS, but as others have said there's a little history there. I definitely reccomend that you jump for yourself. If you're in TO you've got Skydive Niagra and Skydive Burnaby, two of the biggest DZs in Canada, pretty close. At either of them you'll get nothing but good vibes I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #17 October 20, 2007 I don't know why all the hostility. There are any number of sports that probably present the same problems. White water kayaking, freediving, free climbing, spelunking...etc. etc. The fact is, he'd only have to search these forums for a short time to come up with the necessary drama to write a story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #18 October 20, 2007 Wonder how many "bad press" videos are on Skydivingmovies? Hmmmmm let me guess, a golfer uploaded them all to the site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #19 October 21, 2007 Reminder to everyone - No personal attacks even if you feel they are justified, or you are "defending the community" or whatever. Such posts will be deleted and/or the poster banned from posting in this forum. And yes, calling someone a "fucking troll" is a personal attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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CSpenceFLY 1 #2 October 19, 2007 So it's like Jerry Springer from the Great White North. Aay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #3 October 19, 2007 Never heard of the slice network. Of course I'm in Ottawa not TO. I do know there is a lot of conflict with some skydiving families but I've found the right woman and there is never any confict. Sorry no good TV material for me... Unfortunately this request comes at the wrong time of year... Most of the skydiving places are closed now. Maybe go down to a dropzone - get your network to pay for a tandem so you can understand the sport you're going to do a show on... -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mediahqs 0 #4 October 19, 2007 I am not sure if my replies are going through and I am sorry if i repeat myself:) No we are not like Jerry Springer at all...lol, more like Nanny 911 for grown ups. SLICE Network is a Canadian channel, mostly directed at woman/families. No, I am not a troll- just someone directed here by a great skydiver I met on facebook- they told me this would be a great place to meet skydivers. I don't mean to offend anyone.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepDiver 0 #5 October 19, 2007 http://www.slice.ca/ Outlaw In-Laws Episode Guide The House Pest Alberta is a mooching mother-in-law who tests the patience of her son-in-law Steve and his wife Elizabeth. Alberta's weekend visits can go on for weeks and her pushy behavior puts everyone in the house on edge, including the grandkids. While this "house pest" is oblivious to her imposing ways, son-in-law Steve is ready to blow. In this episode, Ellie lays down the law and challenges the family to define boundaries that work for everyone. The Meddling Mother In-Law” Son In-Law Tim is passionate about car-racing -- and it’s driving his Mother-in-law Donna around the bend. Donna wants her son-in-law to get his priorities straight, quit racing and turn his energies towards his family. However Tim says he isn’t ready to throw in the towel and he is fed up with Donna’s interfering opinions and meddling ways. These two in-laws are in crisis and only Ellie can help them get back on track. The Man in the Middle James and Amanda are young newlyweds trying to live in wedded bliss, but they have a serious problem: mother-in-law Linda refuses to welcome Amanda into the family. Linda thinks her new daughter-in-law Amanda is unworthy and she won't let go of the apron springs when it comes to her eldest son, James. The two in-laws are in a vicious battle for James' time and attention and it’s tearing him apart. In this episode, Ellie must put an end to this tug-of-war and show the family how to work together as team. Who's the Boss? Lutz and Nicky call their home "The Zoo"--a blended family of six children, three dogs, two cats, and, last but not least, Renata, Lutz's 66-year-old mother. Nicky didn’t realize that marrying Lutz also meant marrying her old-fashioned mother-in-law, Renata. Nicky and Renata spend all day together but have opposite philosophies on how to run a family home. They are locked in a destructive battle over whose way is the right way and the stress is threatening to break the entire family apart. By getting Nicky and Renata to see each other in a new light, Ellie helps this family move in the right direction. Great topics!! is family strife and conflict required? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UDSkyJunkie 0 #6 October 19, 2007 skydiving has enough bad press that we don't deserve, we hardly need help getting more. Please leave."Some people follow their dreams, others hunt them down and beat them mercilessly into submission." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #7 October 19, 2007 Quote Great topics!! is family strife and conflict required? I think it's stupid. Are they still showing the Wife Swapping program on TV? Stupidest shit I've ever seen. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #8 October 19, 2007 So... when someone offers an oportunity that might present a chance to explain the reasons whuffos and skydivers sometimes experience strife in home life, and possibly even present it in a way that makes other whuffos sympathetic, everyone grabs pitchforks and lights torches? And then they bitch more about the negative press. Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #9 October 19, 2007 Hey guys, All I have to say is WOW! Why is everyone being such pricks to this person, I mean, I know it's the DZ.com way, but seriously. We can all get our point across without bashing this person who may or may not be doing his/her job. I don't really think the idea is that great because as someone above posted, it will likely end up turning into more negative press for a sport that deserves none of it. However, consider this person's position. I have a sister in Toronto, I live in Ottawa, we both skydive. Skydiving has done nothing but bring us closer, it is common ground between us. We used to be somewhat distant and I've never been closer to her and to my parents, I associate it solely to skydiving. For any Canadians...the most recent Canpara had an article about a girl who saw her brother jump, got a packing job and has now decided to start jumping. That is my sister! (See page 24 of Oct/Nov 07 issue). And wouldn't you look at that, I'm in the picture....FAMILY, on my sisters first jump! Who would have though? So seriously, if you're just going to bitch, keep your mouth shut, I don't want to hear it and I'm sure others don't either. Can you only imagine the outlook that this person now has of skydivers? Talk about bad press, read the headline " Skydivers are a bunch of pricks". I honestly have never met such a bunch of hostile people in my life. I think you guys should all consider an apology to this person. Good god!"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #10 October 19, 2007 it's probably relevant to an anonymous poster exploiting the sport without offering much information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #11 October 19, 2007 QuoteHey guys, All I have to say is WOW! Why is everyone being such pricks to this person, I mean, I know it's the DZ.com way, but seriously. We can all get our point across without bashing this person who may or may not be doing his/her job. I don't really think the idea is that great because as someone above posted, it will likely end up turning into more negative press for a sport that deserves none of it. However, consider this person's position. I have a sister in Toronto, I live in Ottawa, we both skydive. Skydiving has done nothing but bring us closer, it is common ground between us. We used to be somewhat distant and I've never been closer to her and to my parents, I associate it solely to skydiving. For any Canadians...the most recent Canpara had an article about a girl who saw her brother jump, got a packing job and has now decided to start jumping. That is my sister! (See page 24 of Oct/Nov 07 issue). And wouldn't you look at that, I'm in the picture....FAMILY, on my sisters first jump! Who would have though? So seriously, if you're just going to bitch, keep your mouth shut, I don't want to hear it and I'm sure others don't either. Can you only imagine the outlook that this person now has of skydivers? Talk about bad press, read the headline " Skydivers are a bunch of pricks". I honestly have never met such a bunch of hostile people in my life. I think you guys should all consider an apology to this person. Good god! OMFG How long did it take you to type all that?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #12 October 19, 2007 Quoteit's probably relevant to an anonymous poster exploiting the sport without offering much information? Sure, I get that. What I don't get is why these guys chose to respond with hostility instead of just ignoring it or asking for more information. I have to add this: The OP gave a first name and the name of company they worked for and also explained in pretty clear words what they wanted and why they were here. What more information would you have liked them to give? How is this poster any more anonymous than anyone else here? I kind of doubt they had a clue what to put in their profile, it's mostly skydiving related. Is it really understandable to suggest someone jump out of a plane with no rig because they didn't list a home DZ and a wingloading?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #13 October 19, 2007 Troll or not....I took a few seconds and enlisted the power of google. http://www.fsatoronto.com/programs/lgbt/LGBTnewsJuly07.html#slice Do a search for "Rennata Lopez" on these pages: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0484016/combined http://swedish.imdb.com/title/tt0889206/combined http://imdb.com/title/tt0841170/fullcredits You're all so damned worried about your negative press....guess what you just caused. More reason for the media to report "NEGATIVE SKYDIVING PRESS" Oh, and based on the PM's I'm getting, it seems as though I've hurt some people's precious feelings....whoops! How does it feel? Hahah. Chris"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #14 October 19, 2007 I couldn't agree more...with both side (without the hostility) The OP may represent the Media but ytou don't have to be douchebags to him/her. I see each media interest as a CHANCE to put a positive story out there. I've had my fair share of good press printed but this is NOT good press for skydivers. Reality shows are not good press for ANYONE. Still, there is no reason to piss on the OP. A simple refusal of the offer is good enough and a CALM explanation why would do MUCH better than going batshit on the person who CAN give you bad press. no matter how you like EACH ONE OF US represent skydiving as a whole just ads Skymama said the OP represents the Media. MEDIAHQS, GENERALLY speaking S kydiviers are a good fun loving bunch with tight knit groups of family and friends. Unfortunately, sensationalism in the media has painted us as death wishing, death defying, risk-taking, drug addicts. The only thin I am is a CALCULATED risk taker. I wouldn't do this show if I was a canadian simply because there is no good thing that I can forsee coming from it...as a skydiver OR as a regular person. Don;t let the piss and vinegar sway you away from trying a skydive for yourself..>WITH A PARACHUTE. We don't need any more bad press. Check out a DZ in your area and see if you can jump. at the very least you will get some person interaction with REAL skydivers. not just a bunhc hot handed internet posters.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #15 October 19, 2007 Hostility now on both sides.My take as someone who works in the media world: Don't show up without all the pertinent information, expecting everyone wants to be a star just because you've got some juice. Skydiving community is media-shy for the most part. And having said that, any skydiver that allows the media to portray them where they don't have final cut...they're begging for trouble. It's in the writer/editor's best interest to create diametric viewpoints in this sort of show; no matter what...someone is gonna look really bad. It's the nature of the beast. We need a hero and a villian in everything we see. While I don't agree with it, a more or less anonymous post asking skydivers to become TV stars should expect a little hostility. For all you know...*I'm* the one posting as Renata Lopez. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #16 October 20, 2007 Sorry about the BS, but as others have said there's a little history there. I definitely reccomend that you jump for yourself. If you're in TO you've got Skydive Niagra and Skydive Burnaby, two of the biggest DZs in Canada, pretty close. At either of them you'll get nothing but good vibes I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #17 October 20, 2007 I don't know why all the hostility. There are any number of sports that probably present the same problems. White water kayaking, freediving, free climbing, spelunking...etc. etc. The fact is, he'd only have to search these forums for a short time to come up with the necessary drama to write a story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #18 October 20, 2007 Wonder how many "bad press" videos are on Skydivingmovies? Hmmmmm let me guess, a golfer uploaded them all to the site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #19 October 21, 2007 Reminder to everyone - No personal attacks even if you feel they are justified, or you are "defending the community" or whatever. Such posts will be deleted and/or the poster banned from posting in this forum. And yes, calling someone a "fucking troll" is a personal attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
