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Sometimes we learn lessons the hard way...

Not much to post. It was a windy day, I didn't realize I was going towards a hill until it was too late. I couldn't stand up on it and slid down...

Problem: no pants on. see picture.
Lesson learned: wear pants on windy days



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Sometimes we learn lessons the hard way...

Not much to post. It was a windy day, I didn't realize I was going towards a hill until it was too late. I couldn't stand up on it and slid down...

Problem: no pants on. see picture.
Lesson learned: wear pants on windy days



I think your PROBLEM is not the no pants, but the fact that you didn't know you were headed for hill "until too late".
You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
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Another lesson: learn to land on uphill and downhill slopes. Most canopies have no problems landing on slopes in either direction.



So, when I learned to Paraglide, these sort of skills were part of the basic skills we learned since flying off mountains was what we did... Because the wind went uphill (or we would not launch) - landing uphill was not something we did - because it would be like doing a downwind into the side of a cliff. Landing downhill was much preferred... And, if the hill was so steep landing was not possible, our glide slope would most of the time be more shallow – so we would fly past the steep parts of the hill…

But, in skydiving - since the wind could be going either direction on any hill, I guess landing uphill could be more common…

Our DZ is miles from the mountains – So I honestly have not thought about this for skydiving canopies…

I looked in the SIM... It talks about the SOP for landing on buildings, in trees, on water, power lines, et al. But, no common advice for hillside landings. Would any of you more experienced care to share the basics that seem to be omitted from the SIM?

(BTW – a tidbit from paragliding… Know thy wind direction on a hill because the rotors on the top of the hill will kill. I knew someone who was ground launching a skydiving canopy who did not understand this… I would never launch a paraglider without a wind sock (or other indicator) at the top and bottom of the hill to make sure I understood the wind and rotors. Landing a canopy without the same seems scary[:/])

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But, in skydiving - since the wind could be going either direction on any hill, I guess landing uphill could be more common…



Just to provide a little more background: it doesn't have to be a full-blown paraglider-suitable hill. It could be a slope no more than 15ft long, rising no more than a couple of feet, and you'll still have to modify your landing.

I'll leave the explanation of the technicalities involved to someone with more experience than little ol' me.

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I looked in the SIM... It talks about the SOP for landing on buildings, in trees, on water, power lines, et al. But, no common advice for hillside landings. Would any of you more experienced care to share the basics that seem to be omitted from the SIM?



Sometimes the obvious answer is the best one. If possible, landing perpendicular to the slope is preferred.

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>Would any of you more experienced care to share the basics that seem to be omitted from the SIM?

Landing downhill - the flare has to be a lot more gradual, since you will "balloon" upwards if you flare normally. Shouldn't be much different than landing a paraglider on a slope.

Landing uphill - requires a more aggressive flare. Basically you _want_ to balloon upwards to follow the slope of the hill. With a large canopy, you may not get enough flare power to match the slope of the hill (depending on the hill) and thus you should be ready to PLF. A little double-front-riser might help build up some speed for a more effective flare, but this should NOT be done unless you're proficient at double front landings on flat land first, since if you screw up you'll hit the hill going that much faster.

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Landing downhill - the flare has to be a lot more gradual, since you will "balloon" upwards if you flare normally. Shouldn't be much different than landing a paraglider on a slope.

Landing uphill - requires a more aggressive flare. Basically you _want_ to balloon upwards to follow the slope of the hill. With a large canopy, you may not get enough flare power to match the slope of the hill (depending on the hill) and thus you should be ready to PLF. A little double-front-riser might help build up some speed for a more effective flare, but this should NOT be done unless you're proficient at double front landings on flat land first, since if you screw up you'll hit the hill going that much faster.



good to know now... well, it's all about learning!

and i'm happy to report that my ass is healing quite nicely and i'm reintegrating myself as a functional member of society again... :$ ...though it was funny to watch me walk for those few days afterwards.... cross between a chicken and.. well... you probably know...:$



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