Amazon 7 #1 January 13, 2008 Are you ready to compete in the fastest gravity powered human sport???? So how fast do you think you REALLLLLY are in freefall. There has not been an International Speed Skydiving Association event in this country since the summer of 2005. It is too early in the year for the 2008 rules and where the other competitions are going to be but with the exchange rate it should be a good deal for the European speeders to come over to this side of the pond for a great competition. I know numerous people have talked to me in the last several years about competing and find out just how fast they are. Lets get this thing going. We need to know exactly how many of you will really want to compete. I have attached the rules from 2007 to give you an idea of what you need to know. To copy updownshops sig line. SkyFest: The Boogie that "Pays it Skyward" is "IN MOTION" June 4-9th 2008 at SD Carolina! 3 Casa's, Otter, Balloon, more to come. http://www.collegeskydiving.com/skyfestboogie/ Currently the plan is to have a qualification round on thursday and Friday for anyone who has not competed in a World Cup before. I plan on running a safety seminar to keep you safe in the sky and do this without some of the stupid mistakes I made when I first started. I will also be doing some coaching on technique. The gear must be standard off the shelf skydiving equipment. A full face helmet and a rig that is freefly friendly ( Even novices are going over 200 MPH) You can wear whatever silly suit you like.. Vinyl and spandex is all the rage for some.. I just wear a pretty tight RW suit with booties( no grippers... those tend to beat you a bit at speed) LEAD IS NOT ALLOWED for speed skydiving You must make a qualifying run of 300 KPH(186MPH) for the mens competition and 250 KPH(155MPH) for the womens competition. All the rules of ISSA apply to these jumps pertaining to measurement, please read the RULES PDF carefully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 January 14, 2008 I have recieved a few PM's and I know there are a few of you who have asked me about competing... well ..... here is your chance.. lets talk about it... Anyone with questions please feel free to chat about it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildfan75 1 #3 January 14, 2008 What are the rules about body position? Is this a belly flying thing or is head down/sit allowed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #4 January 14, 2008 Quote What are the rules about body position? Is this a belly flying thing or is head down/sit allowed? Pretty much head down. It's not a hard thing for me to do with my heavy background in late diving slots on the big ways. Just a little tweak and ZZZZZOOOOOOMMMMM!!!! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 January 15, 2008 All the serious competitors that I know of go head down in what used to be called a no lift dive. Some people think they can maintain a stand for 40 seconds but I have not seen it. When you exit the aircraft you go out in a position like you are tracking while on the hill and transition into a penciled out dive when you pull in your hands and feet ..while remaining stable.. point your toes and try to stay as stable as you can, balancing on a timy spot on the top of your helmet while going this fast is not an easy skill to master for most people.. Getting unstable tends to cause Out of Bounds dives. The two Protracks must be within 30 KPH of each other. When you tumble or get unstable you tend to burble one of them and that causes a bad reading.. and poof that jump is OB and does not count. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #6 January 15, 2008 i will try to get some feedback from other members of ISSA to see if we can fit this into world cup. for now here is the latest from Arnold: Competitions 2008 In 2008 the worldcup will contain of three meets: - Finland, dropzone Utti, middle of june - Sweden, dropzone Gryttjom, july or august for the 3rd meet there are three bids: - Morocco, dropzone Beni Mellal (end of march 2008) - Italy, dropzone Casale Monferrato (july or august) - England, dropzone Hibaldstow (july or august) Marco will contact Nabil Sedrati due to the morrocan meet. The decision about the third meet and the dates will come latest on 30st of november 2007. -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #7 January 15, 2008 QuoteSome people think they can maintain a stand for 40 seconds but I have not seen it. i've seen it. they have to use some bands to keep their feet together. i think female brazilian record was set in a stand. but head down is the way to go -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 January 15, 2008 You can get more information from our Speed Skydivving Forum. I would suggest that anyone who is interested in competing should go there and sign up.. there is some very good information as well as links to meet results in the past so you can check out how fast various competitors are. http://speedskydiving.proboards19.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #9 January 15, 2008 Too bad the rules pretty much rule out cessna 182 DZ's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #10 January 17, 2008 Speed Skyding? -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 January 17, 2008 It got changed from the original post that got moved to another forum.. then got moved back here after editing... But I think EVERYONE here can speak typoese now cant they. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 February 15, 2008 Stay Tuned folks.. and make plans to get to SKYFEST... Stan we need to chat as soon as we can. The ISSA Board has voted.. what do we need to do to confirm?? As the Organizer I need details of expectations... and man.. its only a little over 3 months away OH and we need some idea of who would like to take a shot at the competition. Please if you want to join us for some fast fun in the sky..... put your name on the list The Speeders list Amazon Bobsled92 Staso Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #13 February 28, 2008 We are a confirmed event for Skyfast. http://www.skyfestboogie.com/content/view/38/16/ I will be doing some of the organizing and will be doing some coaching before the competition starts. If you have a hankerin to go fast.. this is the time to do it. Here is a link to the International Speed Skydiving Association World Cup Events for 2008 http://www.speedskydiving.eu/?p=p_45&sName=speed-skydiving-worldcup-series-2008 So who is coming that wants to compete??. So far several of the Speeders from Europe have shown an interest in coming to compete. OH I found this You Tube link for Marco speeding. http://youtube.com/watch?v=yemCdQSKkt8 I may just have to put together one of these Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homer 0 #14 March 1, 2008 It's been some time since I tried a speed dive. My fastest with a protrack inside my helmet is 214 in SAS mode. For me it feels like I'm flying threw a tube. CSA #699 Muff #3804 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sletzer 3 #15 March 7, 2008 How about a little more info such as license requirements to compete and costs. ThxI will be kissing hands and shaking babies all afternoon. Thanks for all your support! *bows* SCS #8251 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 April 24, 2008 BUMP QuoteHow about a little more info such as license requirements to compete and costs. Thx Ok lets start talking about this World Cup Competition 06-08 June 2008, USA Skydive Carolina I FEEL the need The NEED TO SPEEED http://www.skyfestboogie.com/content/view/38/16/ Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday All Day 7:30AM 7:30AM 7:30AM Trials 3 Rounds 3 Rounds 3 Rounds I think as long as one has the ability to fly safely we will follow the guidelines in the RULES...and I need to speak with the DZO and the Organizer about the cost The Essence of Speed Skydiving. To compete for the best Meet Result and set World Records. A Meet Result is made up of 3 jumps from “regular” skydiving altitude: 4.000 meters (13.124 ft). Meet Results and World Records can only be set during a sanctioned ISSA competition. Only regular skydiving gear in sale to be used. No extra weights allowed. Two “hip-mounted” Larsen & Brusgaard Pro-Tracks measure the average speed between 2.700 meters (8.858 ft) and 1.700 meters (5.577 ft). Extract the readings with Larsen & Brusgaard Jump-Track version 2.00.D. Qualification Jump: A jump that verifies a competitor’s eligibility to enter the competition. Minimum qualification speed for men is 300 km/h (186 mph), and 250 km/h (155 mph) for women, as the average over the Measurement Zone (1.000 meters). Only one Pro-Track may be used for qualification jump and it can be placed in competitor’s helmet or anywhere on the harness. The result of a qualification jump is not used for competition itself. Qualified Competitor: Competitor who has either met or exceeded the speed requirements during a qualification jump, or someone who has participated in speed skydiving competition before. So who is going to help us abuse gravity??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #17 April 24, 2008 What additional requirements/recommendations are there for speed skydiving? For example, Marco has a very unique rig made for him by Rigging Innovations. Additionally, he's wearing a special jumpsuit. Safety issues? Other caveats or helps? Sounds like a lot of fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 April 24, 2008 Any rig in the competition definitely needs to be one that is freefly friendly. Loose flaps at 150 MPH are one thing but at 250... mph could let things out that you really do not want flappin in that much of a breeze. Most of the rigs I have seen in competition are p[retty much just regular modern rigs. I use my Infinity and other than having a couple pouches added to the side at the bottom of the container for my protracks.. there is no difference. When I am packing I do make sure it is packed tightly and I do use a double closing loop on my main container... and I ensure the bridle is stowed completely under the flap next to the BOC. The rules call for skydiving equipment available on the market. That means regular helmets...rigs... and I guess some people might jump with rubber suits on.. I do not. Some of the competitors do jump with vinyl or slick suits. For safety... We go out of the plane first. You do not want someone who is going in excess of 200 MPH above you. Usually there are 3 speeders per pass and each is to track off in a different direction 90 degrees from the line of flight. If you do get unstable at these speeds you can hurt yourself.. be aware of what it takes to regain stability without corking to a belly to earth flat stable...that can really hurt. Usually I will arch out a bit and that will put me into a bit of a track and once I stabilize I get back into the penciled out position.. If I was really unstable.. I would tuck everything in.. into a safety ball. I use a Pro track and a pro dytter in my helmet.( FULL FACE Gaffers tape to hold the visor in place... open face helmets are fine but goggles can get ripped off at these speeds and 300 mph windburn on my face SUCKED)..I want to make sure I hear the alarms going off at 5500 ... so I can pull out of the dive and into a track......at 4500 to start applying my speed braking maneuver( arms held tightly to my side and then bringing my hands up as if I was doing a weight lifting curl) to really bleed off that forward movement. When I stop feeling the huge amount of pressure against my hands then I know its time to get big ... flat and stable... and deploy. My third alarm is set for 2500 and I know I should have or be dumping at that time. It is a lot of fun.. and when you hit the right body position head down with everything tucked in...its like entering a tube of air that has hard sides to it and you just accelerate and drop thru the tube... its nearly indescribable when you hit that. Go luck and as Ken Hansen says... May the G-Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 June 13, 2008 Bump http://www.speedskydiving.eu/ The meet results synopsis is online.. Thanks for sending that Stan.. News Here is a short report from Stan Snigir (USA) about the Speed Skydiving season opener 2008 in Skydive Carolina (USA): "... the competition was hard! 39 degrees celcius, 85% humidity, hard landing area and barely any wind.We got some high exit altitude and had to do some rejumps. Which was not so fun at that temperatures. Chris took the first spot, I took the second and Frederik took the third. Amazon took it all in female and set new US female records ..." male ranking meet result 1. Labhart Christian (SUI) 449.66 2. Snigir Stan (USA) 425.44 3. von Schmalensee Frederik (SWE) 410.61 female ranking meet result 1. Cameron Jeanne (USA) 412.51 2. Olson Jessey (CAN) 199.97 3. Maricle Tanya (USA) 135.57 Congratulations for national records: Jeanne Cameron (USA) 421.81 km/h average speed Jessy Olson (CAN) 314.7 km/h average speed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #20 June 13, 2008 Wow.... that's a big margin over the 2nd lass - cool (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 June 13, 2008 This was her first competition as it was for Tanya as well. Jessy was faster than her hubbie too....I am really proud of her accomplishment in her first tries. I would hope more people would come out to play... there is nothing quite like the rush of going that fast in freefall. Before Skyfest I had less than 10 jumps this year...too much work.. and lousy weather here in Americas version of Crappy English Weather. A couple of marks I am shooting for in the future. Clare Murphy 442.73 Womens World Record Stan Sniger 468.70 American National Record Alexander Diem 504.32KPH World Record Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #22 June 14, 2008 Yes, that jumpsuit makes your ass look fast. Congrats, again 'Zon!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #23 June 14, 2008 Your friggin ROCK BIG RED Nice work Jeanne You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #24 June 14, 2008 so how about them medals ? -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 June 14, 2008 See if you can spot a wee error New ones are on order.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
