Personal Victory for Me!

[aresye 0]

So, I made a post a few months ago, expressing my concerns as an aircrewman not being allowed to go skydiving. Well, after asking around my command, no one seemed to know the policy on recreational activities, because many helicopter squadrons ban high-risk activities like skydiving, SCUBA diving, etc. So most of the time I've been keeping it on the down-low.

Now that I'm at my permanent command, in Jacksonville, FL, I knew that at some point they will find out I skydive, so I wanted to find out once and for all whether I can do it with their permission, or if I would once again have to keep it on the down-low. I asked my safety petty officer, who in turn went to our safety officer to ask him about it.

After a little while, my petty officer comes back, and says that the officer doesn't have a problem with it, as long as I am current, and use the required safety devices. So on Monday I'm supposed to bring in everything I have from my training, such as my AFF card, my license card, log book, etc. A good thing I saved my old cards, and applications. I think I'll also bring in my Cypress 2 card, and a photo of my rig showing the optional safety devices I jump with.

I'm really exited about being able to jump without worry of a cover-up story in the event I am ever injured. I've heard horror stories of commands downright banning it, punishing those who break the rule, and others who have had to fight for months to get approval to skydive.

Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours.

[SARLDO 0]

Good for you but, they can't tell you you can't jump anyway. Anyone who does tell you this is speaking from ignorance. If you are told you can't jump, let me know. I would love to speak to whoever tells you this.

"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest" ~Samuel Clemens

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Dudeist Skydiver #68

[I3uller 0]

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Good for you but, they can't tell you you can't jump anyway. Anyone who does tell you this is speaking from ignorance. If you are told you can't jump, let me know. I would love to speak to whoever tells you this.

I knew a guy that asked his first line NCO's if he could skydive and he was told that he couldn't. Oh yea and we are both in the 82nd Airborne Division on active jump status. I know there are set rules in Division like you have to jump with an AAD etc. but his chain of command just went with ignorance and told him no.

[Sangi 0]

wow, you really do have some downright stupid laws here in US...

"Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean

[michalm21 2]

What stupid laws? No laws ban him skydiving.
You scream ignorance every time you open your mouth on these forums... just like on the basejumper.
Think twice before you write, you troll

[popsjumper 2]

So different groups can make up different rules over and above what's in the UCMJ? Just asking.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[aresye 0]

If a command is very ignorant about skydiving, they usually have it in the form of a page 13 entry. If you sign it, and then go skydiving, then they can charge you with, "Failure to obey order or regulation."

The only page 13 like that I signed was when I went through aircrew and rescue swimmer school. However, when I signed it I remember thinking, "Pffff, why would I get into skydiving?" LOL!

It was in RSS I met my skydiving buddy, and I was out of that command when I made my first jump, and started taking the AFF course.

There's lots of rumors about what aircrew can, and cannot do. Technically we are all allowed to participate in high-risk activities, but it gets a little messy when your CO says no. Thankfully that hasn't happened on my part.

Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours.

[Sangi 0]

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What stupid laws? No laws ban him skydiving.
You scream ignorance every time you open your mouth on these forums... just like on the basejumper.
Think twice before you write, you troll

Well not laws, but rules.

Why would the army not allow you to skydive?

P.S. I couldn't care less if you think I'm ignorant or not. Whatever

"Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean

[aresye 0]

I don't know about different branches, but the main reason that some units don't allow high-risk activities is because of our value. I forgot how much it costs to train a Naval Aircrewman, but it's no pocket change, and about a year and a half of training itself. Three years of training if you count the time it takes to get fully qualified. They just don't want us injuring ourselves, and being down for flight status. Wasted work hours, refresher training needed, and/or possible drop from the rate if it's a serious enough injury. A lot of commands don't want to deal with this, so they try to limit the exposure we get to high-risk activities.

Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

It seems to me that the best policy is to not ask. Just do the research on the QT and then do what you want as long as it is not outside what is specifically prohibited.

[Sangi 0]

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I don't know about different branches, but the main reason that some units don't allow high-risk activities is because of our value. I forgot how much it costs to train a Naval Aircrewman, but it's no pocket change, and about a year and a half of training itself. Three years of training if you count the time it takes to get fully qualified. They just don't want us injuring ourselves, and being down for flight status. Wasted work hours, refresher training needed, and/or possible drop from the rate if it's a serious enough injury. A lot of commands don't want to deal with this, so they try to limit the exposure we get to high-risk activities.

My bad. Fair enough

"Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean