Jumpdude 0 #51 July 2, 2008 Well then I go back to my original standing, Slyride, Where are your friends????? There's none here....Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #52 July 2, 2008 I'm out, talk to ya tomorrow.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #53 July 2, 2008 What colour are the pills you take Peanut jeeeseeea,,, i pucked up,,, okay,,,, i may have been drinking a lttle to much tonight,, Can anyone say,,, I KNOW PEANUT....,, i know what he really meant beside billy the deaft one? with only one hearing aid?Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #54 July 2, 2008 I know Peanut but I still don't know what the fuck he is talking about most of the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #55 July 2, 2008 Chuckles, me either, Its like seinfield,,, all about nothing, hehehehe Hey Spence, If everything goes right, I hope to see you at the farm this weekend. Lets gets 8 way cluster pucks going.Its a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #56 July 2, 2008 I heard Spence wants to be on the naked jump with you. Edit: I know Peanut, I don't know what the fuck he is talking about most of the time. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pairashooter 0 #57 July 2, 2008 The issue is that not all drop zones can agree. While one or two may say they will not use them, there is the other guy that wants that money and will still use them. If everyone can come to an agreement then they will be shut down fast. If not, someone will take the business.Chris Scaife Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #58 July 2, 2008 If sLyride was not in the picture at all, every legitimate DZ in the country would have more business than they could do. Just think of how many people each year that buys the Skyride jump ticket, only to find later that they have to drive hundreds of miles, passing possibly as many as 3 or 4 (or more)real DZ's before getting to a skyride DZ, then they just say "screw it" and never make the jump they paid for and never knowing that there may have been a DZ within an hour or so for their home. I wonder if skyride actually pays taxes on all of that free money they get evey year. Hummmm??? Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #59 July 2, 2008 Quote I wonder if skyride actually pays taxes on all of that free money they get evey year. Hummmm??? It would have to be a creative book-keeping job with all the credit card receipts for them to avoid paying taxes on them. It's easier to hide "under the table" cash. JMO"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #60 July 2, 2008 Everything is probably payable to a bogus company name. There's no telling how many damn names they have.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut4040 0 #61 July 2, 2008 Edit: I know Peanut, I don't know what the fuck he is talking about most of the time. Jeeseee,,, nobody knows what i'm talking about anytime,,, Chuckles,,,I"m gonna make a GREAT USPA politican one day. Peanut jumps on politican stump,,,, IFFIN my constinutents want to understand what I'm talking about,,, they shall gather around the bon fire with me After Chuck Blue is in bed. I promise to make sense then. VOTE PEANUTTTTTTIts a good day to LIVE, why puck up a good thing. There is no reply in aad section for. " hell no i would not put an AAD on my back" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virtek 0 #62 July 3, 2008 Did I miss something - I run a Website in England, if you view it in Tenesee, I have to state what Country I'm in or I break your law - I don't really care ? or does it mean that I just need to move my website to another state.. or country... pretty easy to sidestep your legislation... So if you have a company who has call centres in say Florida, even though they sell services in Tenesee, they are breaking the law - seems a bit stupid to me. So I understand it, If I have a US phone number, which I do, and it gets routed to me in the UK, so it's cheaper for US citizens to call me (I.e. I'm doing you a favour), In Tenesee, I'm breaking the law and if so what is Tenesee going to do about it ? Doesn't take a wizard to see that Skyride could set up offshore, and do the same scams.... These types of laws are insular and cause more harm than good I think - Tenesee will find itself isolated soon if it keeps this kind of thing up.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #63 July 3, 2008 Well, at least you agree that skyride is a scam. I'm sure that offshore people are probably unreachable, but give us some credit here, at least it's a effort anyway. It is more targeted towards companies like skyride that are widely know for thumbing their nose at the law and doing everything they can to screw the customer. I will contradict myself by saying this, but if a company is straight up in their business practices and don't try to rip people off, I have no problem with that company. The whole Skyride idea could have been a wonderful idea, but Ben and Cary had to go get greedy. As I have said earlier in this thread, if a business is selling a shipable product, I don't really care where that company is as long as I get what I paid for, but in the case of Skydiving, as you know, the customer has to come to your place of business to receive the services and that's where the problem comes in. As you should know, skyride sells a skydive on the pretense that the customer thinks he/she will be going to a DZ that is just minutes from their home. There is documented cases that skyride has told customers that the dz is only 10 minutes from their home, them after the customer gave up the credit card info, they were told that they had to go to Atlanta, Ga. which was in exess of 200 miles for one customer that I know of. That's why we got this law made. Keep your business clean and you'll never hear any complaints from anyone. That's the way I see it.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virtek 0 #64 July 3, 2008 I agree that Skyride needs dealing with, although it seems to me that if the are found guilty of taking money by deception they can be dealt with anyway under existing laws. E.g. They say the DZ is 10 mins away when it's really 3 hours away - they know it's the case, that's deception right ? Think about Larsen and Brusgaard who are very well regarded. Some new altimeter company decided they want to stitch up their competitors and anonymously complain to the Tennessee cops and report the L&B website for not saying where they are based... you think this law is good now ? These kinds of laws are generally not thought through at all as to the consequences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #65 July 3, 2008 I don't think that L&B will have any problems unless they start say come visit our factory in Gatlinburg. I don't believe that the scope of the law is as broad as you were thinking.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsalnukt 1 #66 July 3, 2008 Yes they suck but after a bunch of kicking and screaming our DZ started to take them again and after the skyride customers jump and have all kinds of fun the call the DZ directly for the next jumps and they also tell their friends how to book directly with us instead of skyride. Essentially they are a source of advertising for us. Every year there are a little bit less of the skyride vouchers...not that there were all that many to begin with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #67 July 4, 2008 I guess the difference between a skyride owned DZ and a privately owned DZ that accepts skyride vouchers is that the Non-skyride owned DZ will be less likely to out right screw the customer where as the Skyride owned DZ has no problem either double charging the customer or acting like they don't have any record of the customer ever calling or even existing. The best advise to give a customer that has gotten screwed by skyride is to tell them to ontact their state's Attorney General and present their case along with the evidence. A customer should never try to go head to head with skyride, that customer will lose. Mostly, individual people don't have the financial backing to win against skyride. It's all about money.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaustik 3 #68 July 4, 2008 Yay more laws. I feel safer already.....The future belongs to those of us still willing to get our hands dirty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #69 July 5, 2008 Skyride is fixin to find out how expensive it is to break the law. After we get through with them, they will think twice before screwing with a bunch of ass kickin', Redneck Tennesseans again! Hang on to your ass skyride, enjoy the ride that we are going to give you!Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #70 July 8, 2008 QuoteSkyride is fixin to find out how expensive it is to break the law. After we get through with them, they will think twice before screwing with a bunch of ass kickin', Redneck Tennesseans again! Hang on to your ass skyride, enjoy the ride that we are going to give you! Especially after what they did with Chris Martin's Tullahoma DZ phone number after his death a few years back, they've got it coming."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #71 July 8, 2008 I just signed up to start training here in oklahoma. I start in 3 weeks! I had such a difficult time finding a place because of all bogus sites that they set up! Luckly I was thorough in my search for a place to jump and found they were bogus. Here are some of the sites! http://1800skyride.com/Skydiving/Oklahoma/ There is not place in oklahoma city: http://www.oklahomacityskydiving.com/ There is no place in norman oklahoma: http://www.thrillplanet.com/Skydiving/Norman/gift.html http://www.soaringsports.com/skydiving/Oklahoma_Oklahoma/skydiving_in_Oklahoma.html Oklahoma City again: http://www.1800skyride.com/Skydiving/OklahomaCity/gift.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #72 July 8, 2008 >After we get through with them, they will think twice before screwing >with a bunch of ass kickin', Redneck Tennesseans again! Unfortunately, they will have a pocket full of your money to fight you with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #73 July 8, 2008 Quote >After we get through with them, they will think twice before screwing >with a bunch of ass kickin', Redneck Tennesseans again! Unfortunately, they will have a pocket full of your money to fight you with. Well yeah, they do, no thanks to USPA, but they are reeling on another front. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #74 July 8, 2008 Well, I guess the good thing is that they will be fighting the Tennessee Attorney General if that makes any difference. They won't get any money out of me, there's no money to be had here. I live in an apartment and don't own anything that would be worth anything to anyone. So that being said, I guess I have nothing to loose.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpdude 0 #75 July 8, 2008 I'm glad you found a place to jump without getting ripped off by sLyride. There are several states that they don't have anyone that will accept their BS gift certificates. They run those same websites all over the country, all you have to do is change the city or state in the domain, and you will see that they are just database driven, PHP websites. Good for you.Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
