livendive 8 #1 April 20, 2004 Personally, I've made a fair number of jumps with no helmet, goggles, altimeter (visual or audible), jumpsuit, RSL, or AAD. If I've got two parachutes, handles to deploy them (and cut one away), and a harness to keep everything within my reach, I'm good to go. Which of the above pieces of equipment will you not jump without? (alternately phrased, "Which of the above pieces of equipment do you consider necessary on every jump?") Note - I'm not referring to emergency bail-outs or anything like that, I'm talking about normal everyday jumps. If your CYPRES is in for its 4-year, will you jump without it? If you forget your altimeter, do you jump without it or ride the plane down? That kind of stuff. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #2 April 20, 2004 I take goggles...I will not ride the plane down without them, but when I started I had contacts so I have never forgotten them...."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,595 #3 April 20, 2004 Depends on the jump, but I've jumped and survived wearing only a rig and parachutes , so obviously it can be survived. Altimeter is useful; goggles make it more comfortable. In the winter at least, clothes are a really nice accessory . For the rest of the jumps, well, all that other stuff is necessary if I ended up needing it . Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #4 April 20, 2004 Hmm...I always thought the "Total votes" referred to individual people, not total # of choices in a "multiple answers allowed" poll. I guess these results become a little less meaningful under those circumstances (unless 16 people really have voted, and each chose only 1 option). Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #5 April 20, 2004 I chose not to ride to altitude and do a hop n pop because I forgot my full face helmet and didnt have any goggles. The only reason was because I didn't want to risk loosing my perscription glasses in freefall. I don't wear goggles for CReW. I don't actually require anything other then my Rig which doesn't have an AAD and I don't require an RSL but it is equiped with one that can at times be unhooked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelem 0 #6 April 20, 2004 I normally jump in the UK helmet: Required, but if it wasn't I would probably leave the plane without one if it broke on the way up, but I wouldn't go up without one. goggles: Well I've jumped without them from 13k ft and didn't even notice until I saw the video! altimeter: Required if you're not doing a hop+pop, but I would always wear one anyway. I don't trust myself enough to know when to pull. jumpsuit: For a solo I'd jump without one, and have done. RSL: Well, I've just bought a rig without one. AAD: Again this is required where I jump, but if it wasn't I probably still wouldn't jump without one. Quote: If I've got two parachutes...I'm good to go. Well base jumpers rarely have even that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #7 April 20, 2004 Just a standard skydiving rig for me. 2 Canopies with the appropriate handles. The rest I have because I choose to have them - I've jumped without all of these at some point in my career - I just prefer not to given the choice. Blue skies IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #8 April 20, 2004 I said goggles because I wear glasses or prescription sunnies......---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
relyon 0 #9 April 20, 2004 I voted none because I've done just that on several occasions. I don't have an AAD, RSL, audible, or goggles. I've even made one jump without my prescription glasses, but won't do it again and don't recommend it. The only items I regularly use are an altimeter, helmet, and jumpsuit. I won't jump without a hook knife (not on the list). Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeat10500 12 #10 April 20, 2004 Just give me a container with 2 parachutes...having 2 parachutes is overkill on most jumps.----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark135 0 #11 April 20, 2004 hmm lets see. at some point i have jumped without a helmet, altimeter, cypres, hook knife, shoes, rsl, clothes, but never my goggles._______________ "It seemed like a good idea at the time" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #12 April 20, 2004 I'm curious about the goggles part. Do most people wear goggles on hop and pops? If I had to lose one piece of gear before exit, goggles would come pretty high on the list of things I can live without. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 April 20, 2004 QuoteI'm curious about the goggles part. Do most people wear goggles on hop and pops? If I had to lose one piece of gear before exit, goggles would come pretty high on the list of things I can live without. I've gone without, but you can see why I might not want to.....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #14 April 20, 2004 QuoteI'm curious about the goggles part. Do most people wear goggles on hop and pops? If I had to lose one piece of gear before exit, goggles would come pretty high on the list of things I can live without. Because I wear contacts, I usually have either a pair of goggles on my head or a pair of sunglasses in my hand during 10 second and shorter delays. I've taken plenty of short delays and made a couple jumps from altitude with neither, but I'd say they rank as my favorite piece of "unnecessary" equipment. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #15 April 20, 2004 QuoteI'm curious about the goggles part. Do most people wear goggles on hop and pops? If I had to lose one piece of gear before exit, goggles would come pretty high on the list of things I can live without. I wear my prescription glasses, usually under goggles or Z1. They are wrap around, so I can wear them for freefall, but my eyes get dried out, and teary during trackoff. Hop/pop would be no problem. I wear gloves, even when I don't wear a jumpsuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #16 April 21, 2004 Goggles were the only box I checked... jumped at one time or other without all the others except a visual altimeter, and I s'pose I could deal with that, especially for a hop n' pop. But my eyes water like crazy even from the wind under canopy (a problem that got worse when I downsized). I used to always flip up my Z1 somewhere between downwind and final, but now I'm usually leaving it just cracked open the whole way down to keep the wind out of my eyes. Landing with watering eyes just sucks. Dunno how anyone can do freefall without goggles. On the other hand... what I actually almost always wear: full face helmet, jumpsuit, AAD, RSL, visual altimeter, hook knife, and gloves. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #17 April 21, 2004 I've jumped without helmet, jumpsuits, audibles. I've also jumped with AAD off and the rsl disconnected. i've even done a couple s/l's without goggles. Only thing i haven't jumped without is a visual altimeter, and a parachute . the only REALLY necessary gear is the parachute. also an altimeter of some type is nice, i doubt even the highly experienced jumpers can tell the difference between 2k and 2.5k. (for when to stop battling those line twists and cutaway) MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #18 April 21, 2004 >i doubt even the highly experienced jumpers can tell the difference > between 2k and 2.5k. (for when to stop battling those line twists > and cutaway) I know I can! When I started skydiving chest mount altimeters were common and I could never see my altitude after opening (it was always plastered against my chin.) I've never looked at my altimeter during a cutaway; I've always had more important things to do, like trying to clear it or actually cutting away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jahk 0 #19 April 21, 2004 QuoteI'm curious about the goggles part. Do most people wear goggles on hop and pops? If I had to lose one piece of gear before exit, goggles would come pretty high on the list of things I can live without. I feel better wearing goggles because they help hold my prescription glasses on my head. The glasses I have now are pretty secure, but I suspect I could lose them in freefall if the air caught them just right. Without them, I could probably land OK, but then I couldn't legally drive off the DZ. Judith __________________________________________________Imelda Marcos just wanted some cute shoes that didn't make her feet hurt. Why's that so hard to understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #20 April 21, 2004 The only thing that I have never jumped without has been goggles. On various skydives, I've jumped with my cypres off, without an audible, without an altimeter, without a helmet, without a jumpsuit and without an RSL on my current rig. I have even had a VERY hard cutaway without an RSL. (No problem.) I had what became a spinning mal...I went to my reserve right away without hesitation about getting stable because it had been a hard cutaway (I didn't know at the time, but I had closed risers on my Reflex after deployment...yikes!). It seemed that I was stable, anyway, when I pulled my reserve. I still have no RSL. It doesn't bother me to not have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auryn 0 #21 April 21, 2004 I voted: Goggles or visor b/c of my contacts, have to have them. visual altimeter: In the event of a spinning mal under my stiletto, this is a must have.. judging alti from the ground in that bad a of a spin, for me, is impossible and would take waaaayy too long to discern. Blue Skies ! Bryan D27808 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #22 April 21, 2004 I own and use all the items on the list. When my cypres was at the factory- I jumped anyway. When I forgot my altimeter- I jumped anyway. When I forgot my goggles- I jumped anyway. I jump without a jumpsuit periodically. I use a frap hat when I do IAD's so I can talk to my students. I don't think I would chose to jump without some kind of footwear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymick 0 #23 April 21, 2004 Helmet - have jumped without, only wear a Gath anyway which is only good to hold a dytter Goggles - I might jump without googles, I wear contacts and have had googles come off in freefall before, but they managed to stay in Alti - would jump without one probably, especially if im jumping with other people (just wait for the track off) jumpsuit - done a nudie so no problems RSL - currently jumping without one AAD - not jumping with one, however will get one soon... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nbblood 0 #24 April 21, 2004 QuoteI'm curious about the goggles part. Do most people wear goggles on hop and pops? If I had to lose one piece of gear before exit, goggles would come pretty high on the list of things I can live without. Personally, I leave the goggles behind on hop and pops or cross countries. I always take the goggles off after deployment anyway, so what's the point on hop and pops? Of course I don't have to deal with the contacts or eyeglasses issue as some people do. I've also jumped from altitude without them a couple times because I was a dummy and forgot them. Oh well, no big deal. As far as the rest of the poll, I've jumped without all of these at some point, but never all at the same time. Maybe I'll have to make a point to try some time, just a rig with canopies/handles. But I can say, that if for some anomaly of life I found myself in the aircraft with nothing but my rig, I'd still jump. Blues, NathanBlues, Nathan If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #25 April 21, 2004 it depends many jumps we have? how curent we are? what kind of jump it is? who are the guys/gals we jump with? u know better than me all this ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
