AdamUSN 0 #1 October 13, 2009 Hi everyone, Today there was a post about a Mirage G4. I believe this to be a possible scam. For Sale: MIRAGE G4/SAFIRE2 210/PDR193/CYPRES2 Price: 1300 GBP The Mirage G4 container is black with alienskin blue. Stainless everything RSL,HIPRINGS. It has blue free fly handels, blue risers, blue toggles. The Safire2 main canopy is lime green with black inner cells and black slider. The PD Reserve is new, never been used with 1st repack due in OCT 07. The Cypres2 is brand new. The container and the main canopy both have 215 jumps, the reserve has 0 jumps and the cypres was never fired. Free Fly friendly, RSL installed, no holes, tears, or patches. Material is still slick, lines are bright white. Comes with owners manual on disk (for container) and a book (for canopy) and with a black gear bag-excellent shape. I got out from skydiving and I need to have 1300 GBP as soon as possible. These are the two reasons of selling the rig at this low price. I have more pictures if you are interested so do not esitate to contact me. Blue skies !! So I was contacted from the seller. Hello XXXX, you have here attached all the photos I have with the rig. Regarding the shipping from UK to US we can use UPS or DHL. What do you think ? Cheers XXXX I replied with emails and he replys back XXXX, I am very interested in the rig. I think that UPS would be the best way to ship, I do not know where DHL delivers to my area. What is the best way for payment? Do you use paypal? Paypal is very secure for both the buyer and the seller. I prefer that method of payment because it will instantly transfer the money at the current rate. Pounds to Dollars. If by paypal I can instantly transfer the money. If by cashiers check I could mail in the morning, and I am not sure how long it will take. I have never bought anything from overseas before so if you know the best method that would be great. Thank you, XXXX His reply Ok XXXX so we will use UPS for the shipping and we will use Western Union Money Transfer for the payment. I will pay the taxes from UPS and you will pay the western union taxes. This way we will split the taxes and I believe this way it is fair for both of us. You can find a western union agent in almost any bank so I am sure it won`t be a problem. You will have to send 1400 GBP (about 2000 USD). I can make the shipping even tomorrow so please let me know if you are ready to make the payment too so that I can give you my name and address for it. I will also need your name and address for the shipping. I am taking the ad down from dropzone.com because I have almost 20 clients already for this rig and I really don`t need more emails. So if you need to see the specs again just tell me and I will email it to you. Cheers and I am looking forward to hear from you XXXX and my reply which he never replied Western union is not a good way for money transfer. I am not protected in the sale. You get my money and then I have to trust you 100%. A lot of posts here do not recommend WU money transfer. Is there another way we can transfer money? I just do not feel good about WU. XXXX I removed the names, his account is 3 years old but nothing is really filled out. I guess that mine is not either! He never once made a post here. I mentioned paypal, security, protection, and he mentions Western Union. I am glad that I did not Jump at this and I hope that others see it too - his 20 clients! Thanks for looking and what are your 2cents? Adam P.S. New Email and it gets better! I worked with western union many times before as a seller and as a buyer and I never had a single problem with them. The best I can offer you is to accept to receive only 500 GBP first and you will send the remaining 800 GBP after you receive the rig. So it is less than a half of the amount. This is the best I can offer you and I hope we will make the deal together. Email me your address if you decide to buy it or a final answer if not so that I won't lose my other clients. 100% scam user name is jeremyzien If you do things that don't make you appreciate life than why do them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #2 October 13, 2009 IT is 100% scam. There's a very easy pattern to spot, and their English always sounds the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 October 13, 2009 Yep, listen to Paul on this one. If the ad is not gone yet let either of us know the Ad's link and we'll remove it to keep anyone else from falling for the scam.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamUSN 0 #4 October 13, 2009 The Add was taken down quickly. I can give you more information or send you the emails personally if you like Phreezone, I also have the user name. Let me know what I can do to help!If you do things that don't make you appreciate life than why do them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sapphire 0 #5 October 13, 2009 That's the same guy that was trying to sell the other Mirage a few weeks back... I wonder how many user names he has! He always has the same story, but he now is using a different rig. Why won't he just go the F away! I guess if it sounds too good to be true... "One can never consent to creep when one feels an impulse to soar" ~ Helen Keller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites