Andy9o8 2 #51 October 21, 2009 Quote Quote Stunts that would fall in the category of outrageously dangerous would be a chuteless jump or base rig jumps from AC. But USPA endorses those too. The USPA endorses chuteless jumps? I don't think so. No, that's the CSPA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #52 October 21, 2009 QuoteI will only call him what we all call him, Super Dave. Not a dangerous person. Possibly a bit crazy but can out fly most jumpers I know. Is this Super Dave the Ferrari mechanic? Can't tell looking at the video." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #53 October 21, 2009 your point being? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #54 October 21, 2009 QuoteIs this Super Dave the Ferrari mechanic? I REALLY doubt it. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #55 October 21, 2009 Quotedz.com kangaroo-court once again Ding Ding Ding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #56 October 24, 2009 Quote Is this Super Dave the Ferrari mechanic? Can't tell looking at the video. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #57 October 25, 2009 How about going out and doing your job correctly instead of showing off? Save the cool stunt work for your own time, with the pilot's concurrence. This especially includes any tandem master with a paying passenger on the front. For the record, I've done hang loads on Twin Beeches, riding the engine nacelle. Fun? Yes. Preplanned? Definitely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hallux 0 #58 October 26, 2009 it was a sweet move. way to try to be creative. Is it in the rules that you cant do that? Is it verified that the pilot didnt know? he was a local right. so maybe he flew with this pilot alot. whatever the case... it was awesome. News flash!! skydivers climb on shit! and there are dangers involved. We can all come up with a dangerous scenario for any situation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #59 October 26, 2009 Quoteit was a sweet move. way to try to be creative. Is it in the rules that you cant do that? Is it verified that the pilot didnt know? he was a local right. so maybe he flew with this pilot alot. If the DZO banned him from jumping again, wouldn't it be highly unlikely it was done "alot" with this pilot? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #60 October 26, 2009 QuoteNews flash!! skydivers climb on shit! and there are dangers involved. Classic response from the “entitlement generation”. Be interesting to see if you attitude changes if at some point it is you money, your business and your “shit” on the line. At the very least it shows a complete disrespect for other people and their property. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #61 October 26, 2009 Quoteit was a sweet move. way to try to be creative. Is it in the rules that you cant do that? Is it verified that the pilot didnt know? he was a local right. so maybe he flew with this pilot alot. whatever the case... it was awesome. News flash!! skydivers climb on shit! and there are dangers involved. We can all come up with a dangerous scenario for any situation When it's your 3 to 4 million dollar airplane maybe you won't think that way. Or when you're an Instructor in that aircraft waiting to get out with your student. Or even a member of the team that spent $500 a piece to compete.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #62 October 26, 2009 Quote Quote it was a sweet move. way to try to be creative. Is it in the rules that you cant do that? Is it verified that the pilot didnt know? he was a local right. so maybe he flew with this pilot alot. whatever the case... it was awesome. News flash!! skydivers climb on shit! and there are dangers involved. We can all come up with a dangerous scenario for any situation When it's your 3 to 4 million dollar airplane maybe you won't think that way. Or when you're an Instructor in that aircraft waiting to get out with your student. Or even a member of the team that spent $500 a piece to compete. No shit....the 70's called, they want their outlaws back! It's all fun & games until some numb-nuts, fucks up property he can't pay for ...or worse, gets people hurt or dead because 'skydivers climb on stuff'. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #63 October 26, 2009 > Is it in the rules that you cant do that? Yes, but for a different reason. I am sure the rules are now being modified so this particular move won't be repeated. >We can all come up with a dangerous scenario for any situation Indeed. Some of us are into 8-way for the sake of 8-way, though, rather than for the sake of "coming up with dangerous scenarios." I really don't get all the people rushing to this guy's defense. He did something dumb, he was talked to, end of story. And when you consider what might have happened, a pretty good end overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #64 October 27, 2009 Quote Or even a member of the team that spent $500 a piece to compete. Personally I would be pissed off at a camera person filming my team that did this during comp. Its not just the money to compete, but the $1000's you spend training to compete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilot-one 0 #65 October 27, 2009 Quote Personally I would be pissed off at a camera person filming my team that did this during comp. Its not just the money to compete, but the $1000's you spend training to compete. Rest assured these guys did not spend thousands training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #66 October 27, 2009 QuoteRest assured these guys did not spend thousands training I don't think that matters. If the guy was being paid to shoot the video, he should have done his job. His 'move' resulted in a zero for the team, which represents a 100% failure to do the job. If he wasn't being paid, he should have stepped aside and let someone who would have done it right. The entire team was counting on him to fly (and exit) his slot, and he did not. It's literally no different than if one of the 8 way team had peeled off on the hill and went head down for the rest of the jump. Without that one guy, the rest of the team is fucked, and end up with the saem zero the camera guy got them. Even if it was just a fun, pick-up team, there are 100 ways a camera guy could have fun and still turn in a judge-able video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #67 October 27, 2009 Quote Quote Personally I would be pissed off at a camera person filming my team that did this during comp. Its not just the money to compete, but the $1000's you spend training to compete. Rest assured these guys did not spend thousands training. It doesn't take much to make thousands. 50 jumps at $20 each=$1000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #68 October 27, 2009 I spoke with one of the team members over the weekend. They're not pissed at him. The one I spoke with didn't know about it ahead of time, either, though. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #69 October 27, 2009 Quote Does anyone know who the camera guy that climbed on top of the fuselage and exited off the opposite side is? I guess he got bounced for the rest of the event by the higher up ar Spaceland(which is the least that should have happened). Just curious ralph Oh, that's Super Dave. When I saw the title of your thread I thought you were talking about me. Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
