lintern 1 #1 November 9, 2009 Just lately my slider keeps getting caught up on opening and i have to get on the rear risers and shake them to get the slider to come down. Any ideas why this might be happening ? The canopy is an Icarus Safire 2, 145. It has between 500 and 600 jumps on it now. I have lost a bit of weight lately (not been eating properly) so could this be to blame ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #2 November 9, 2009 Quote It has between 500 and 600 jumps on it now. i think you've answered your own question; might want to look into a new lineset every now and then.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lintern 1 #3 November 9, 2009 Quote i think you've answered your own question; might want to look into a new lineset every now and then.. My rigger has looked and said the lines are ok at the moment and dont need replacing just yet. I couldnt afford a new lineset at the moment either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #4 November 9, 2009 ok at the moment? dont need replacing just yet? i dont know about your financial situation and couldnt really care less, but a canopy with that amount of jumps DOES need a new lineset, rather sooner than later; otherwise you'll get funky stuff as what you're describing with it. if your safety is not worth the money you spend on gear.. well; your life must not be worth much then!? 700 jumps on a lineset, and its done!“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aresye 0 #5 November 9, 2009 What kind of lines do you currently have? If you have dacron, it's time to replace. If you have spectre, they're overdue to replace. If you have HMA, holy **** batman! Replace them now!Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #6 November 9, 2009 Quote My rigger has looked and said the lines are ok at the moment and dont need replacing just yet. A visual inspection or did the trim get checked? They may look okay, but I'd bet they are way out of trim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lintern 1 #7 November 9, 2009 My rigger is a very good rigger and very highly respected, so he knows what he is talking about. He did an inspection of the main when my reserve was due a repack a few months back. But I dont know exactly how he inspected it. When I told him about the slider problem he did another visual inspection. Could someone please explain to me why exactly the slider gets caught up when the lineset becomes old ? I cant remember what lines mine are - someone did tell me but I forgot. I know he said its the type that stretch. He told me about another type which dont stretch but snap when they reach the end of their life. Dont know if anyone can tell from that what my lines are ? Just out of interest what would happen eventually if the line set was not renewed - would the slider get permantley stuck up ? Looks like im going to need new lines then. Even though I cant afford it, my life is more important. I always look after my gear - my AFF instructor always told us to "look after your gear.... and your gear will look after you" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #8 November 9, 2009 mate seriously, if your lines have more than 5-600 jumps, they need a replacement; nevermind what your rigger says.. now be happy you dont have a competition velocity, i think those lines are only good for like 100 jumps..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_K 0 #9 November 9, 2009 Are you using soft links or hard links on your risers? On my old canopy, the slider grommets had dings and bumps and burrs on them. In talking to my rigger about them, he suggested switching to soft links, which I did. My reason for asking is that if your using hard links, and your grommets have some of those combined with an old line set, you could be getting more friction than you normally would and that could be contributing to it hanging up. As others have suggested, you really should look at finding a way to get the lines replaced. Ask around, you can probably get it done for more reasonably than you think. FAR cheaper than a new canopy and it goes without saying cheaper than your life! See if you can trade work with your DZO or do some extra packing or something. Take a few weeks off of jumping and send that budget to fund new lines. Your life is worth that. Take care, BK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #10 November 9, 2009 My Sabre2 starts doing that whenever I need a new line set. What causes it to hang up is some of the lines shrink more than others. When the slider is being packed, some of the canopy fabric will be pulled through the slider grommets. This causes the slider to hesitate a lot longer than it should or to not come down at all until you shake the lines. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 588 #11 November 9, 2009 Quote Just lately my slider keeps getting caught up on opening and i have to get on the rear risers and shake them to get the slider to come down. Any ideas why this might be happening ? The canopy is an Icarus Safire 2, 145. It has between 500 and 600 jumps on it now. I have lost a bit of weight lately (not been eating properly) so could this be to blame ? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3679295;search_string=slider%20pics;#3679295 Does this help?Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #12 November 9, 2009 >I know he said its the type that stretch. Dacron stretches a bit, but is also thicker/draggier. They last about 500 jumps. >He told me about another type which dont stretch but snap when they >reach the end of their life. That's probably HMA, which shows little sign of wear before failing. >Dont know if anyone can tell from that what my lines are ? Honestly your lines are probably Spectra just because most HP canopies are lined with Spectra. They shrink when they get old and cause the sorts of problems you describe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #13 November 10, 2009 Quote now be happy you dont have a competition velocity, i think those lines are only good for like 100 jumps.. Why would you think they need to be replaced at 100 jumps? You can get a comp Velocity with 300 or 500 HMA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #14 November 10, 2009 i think they're usually 250 HMA..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #15 November 10, 2009 Quote i think they're usually 250 HMA.. The only options on the PD website for a comp Velocity are 300 and 500 HMA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
