popsjumper 2 #26 March 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteI stow my toggles in the landing area t prevent twisting. I SET my brakes in the packing area as a part of my packing routine. So you put them in the keepers, then get to the packing area, "unkeep them" and the set them? Isn't that a good way to forget to set them? Not at all. Stowing toggles is part of the landing process, not the packing process. Setting the brakes is part of the packing process, not the landing process. I'm getting kicks out of all those who are confusing "stowing toggles" with "setting brakes".My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #27 March 24, 2010 Quote Quote I stow my toggles in the landing area t prevent twisting. I SET my brakes in the packing area as a part of my packing routine. So you put them in the keepers, then get to the packing area, "unkeep them" and the set them? Isn't that a good way to forget to set them? That's odd, over 1000 jumps and never forgotten my ROUTINE yet Pete have a routine that you stick to. a step by step method of doing things,it helps prevent the "Forget" you speak ofYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #28 March 24, 2010 Quote Quote I. That's why I yell "INCOMING!!!!" WHAT IF THEY'RE DEAFYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #29 March 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteI stow my toggles in the landing area t prevent twisting. I SET my brakes in the packing area as a part of my packing routine. So you put them in the keepers, then get to the packing area, "unkeep them" and the set them? Isn't that a good way to forget to set them? Not at all. Stowing toggles is part of the landing process, not the packing process. Setting the brakes is part of the packing process, not the landing process. I'm getting kicks out of all those who are confusing "stowing toggles" with "setting brakes". When I land, I take the toggles, set the brakes, and stow them. I guess it's just the routine I learned - In my head, putting them in the keepers, then getting back, packing, unkeeping them, setting them, and keeping them again seems like more work. But hey, whatever works for anyone is perfect for them._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cderham 0 #30 March 24, 2010 Quote That's odd, over 1000 jumps and never forgotten my ROUTINE yet Pete have a routine that you stick to. a step by step method of doing things,it helps prevent the "Forget" you speak of Careful that comment can bite ya in the a$$ real quick! This was jump #970ish and I forgot to stow a brake Chris It's Jimmy Time!! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Fast-As-Fuck/6099474213 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC1 0 #31 March 24, 2010 QuoteWhen I land, I take the toggles, set the brakes, and stow them. I guess it's just the routine I learned - In my head, putting them in the keepers, then getting back, packing, unkeeping them, setting them, and keeping them again seems like more work. But hey, whatever works for anyone is perfect for them. Don't you find removing twists in the brake lines more difficult if you're still wearing the rig and ducking swoopers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #32 March 24, 2010 Quote Quote When I land, I take the toggles, set the brakes, and stow them. I guess it's just the routine I learned - In my head, putting them in the keepers, then getting back, packing, unkeeping them, setting them, and keeping them again seems like more work. But hey, whatever works for anyone is perfect for them. Don't you find removing twists in the brake lines more difficult if you're still wearing the rig and ducking swoopers? Usually it's not a problem re: wearing it. And I tend to land in what's scientifically termed "Way the hell over there," so I'm usually alone, getting ready to para-hike._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #33 March 24, 2010 Quote Don't you find removing twists in the brake lines more difficult if you're still wearing the rig and ducking swoopers? If you don't let go of the toggles before stowing them, where would twists come from? I don't think one or two twists are a problem anyway, but I'm sure some will disagree. Feel free to enlighten me.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #34 March 24, 2010 Quote If you don't let go of the toggles before stowing them, where would twists come from? I don't think one or two twists are a problem anyway, but I'm sure some will disagree. Feel free to enlighten me. depending on how you grab and hold your toggles, you can easily put a twist in them each time you grab. After 6 jumps a day, that's 6 twists scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #35 March 24, 2010 I wondered the same thing a while back. I stow my toggles (but not set my brakes) after landing. I don't twist em when I unstow them, I don't twist them when I stow them, so where the heck were my twists coming from? I realized it was all about which way I turned the cat's eye when setting my brakes. I guess I turn them one way more than 50% of the time. Doesn't seem like that would do it, but I guess I manage to twist the line when setting the brakes. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #36 March 24, 2010 I admit I also get a few twists after a full day of jumping, now that you mention it. I take my rig home unpacked and do a thorough inspection and strip out the brake lines before packing it.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #37 March 25, 2010 Quote I stow my toggles in the landing area t prevent twisting. I SET my brakes in the packing area as a part of my packing routine. Same here. BTW I've tried stowing them BEFORE I land but, well that's problematic (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floflo 0 #38 March 26, 2010 Quote BTW I've tried stowing them BEFORE I land but, well that's problematic Just don't unstow them and land with your rears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #39 March 26, 2010 I stow the whole toggle in the landing area, but I do the excess steering line in the packing area. It's the best way to avoid twisted steering lines.Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites