Where The Pilot Puts You Out

[thrillstalker 0]

i was aware of that effect but not the name of it. much appreciated.

"Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be."

[DaVincisEnvy 0]

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i was aware of that effect but not the name of it.

Another term for "dog leg" which you'll see frequently in meteorological discussions is "directional wind shear" -- just a change in wind direction with a change in altitude. You can get an idea of whether there is significant shear near your DZ by checking the forecast winds aloft before you even leave your house.

[craigbey 0]

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Without fail, put a jumper in charge of spotting the load and they will select the exit point based on where THEY want to exit, without consideration for the rest of the load.

+1

Seen it happen too many times.

[chuckakers 426]

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the Mike Mullins crowd

"get the f@&* out or your comin' back down with me!"

I assume you mean when conditions caused hesitation on the part of otherwise law-abiding jumpers. Kinda sad, given Mike is a USPA Director.

Chuck Akers
D-10855
Houston, TX

[thrillstalker 0]

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i was aware of that effect but not the name of it.

Another term for "dog leg" which you'll see frequently in meteorological discussions is "directional wind shear" -- just a change in wind direction with a change in altitude. You can get an idea of whether there is significant shear near your DZ by checking the forecast winds aloft before you even leave your house.

i jump at the farm which is 90 miles through atlanta so i stay the weekend. i check the winds before my first jump and make sure they haven't changed before the next.

thanks for the link

"Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be."

[IanHarrop 42]

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I don't wanna brag or anything....but I used to be pretty good with a WDI.

Now that I think of it, I haven't even seen one of those since the DZ closed (8 years ago?). Anybody use WDI's on the first load of the day anymore?

There is a DZ close to Calgary that use nice yellow WDI. They do it because they train some Brit soldiers to jump and its part of the deal with the British military. Those nice yellow WDIs must be easy to see until they get over the big fields of nice yellow canola!

"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

[airtwardo 7]

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I don't wanna brag or anything....but I used to be pretty good with a WDI.

Now that I think of it, I haven't even seen one of those since the DZ closed (8 years ago?). Anybody use WDI's on the first load of the day anymore?

There is a DZ close to Calgary that use nice yellow WDI. They do it because they train some Brit soldiers to jump and its part of the deal with the British military. Those nice yellow WDIs must be easy to see until they get over the big fields of nice yellow canola!

We were doing a demo into St. Louis once and the WDI landed on a moving train...

Where's the spot?

Looked to be out of the west for a while, but the streamer is moving South at a pretty good clip NOW!

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[jrh 0]

I really enjoy spotting. Everyone talks about it from a safety perspective, but beyond that, I just think it's fun. It's a challenge to see how good I can get. Kinda like accuracy landings. Part art, part science.

I do the majority of my jumping at a small, single 182 DZ so we always spot for ourselves. When I've gone to bigger DZs and boogies, I missed spotting. I still check the spot, but don't expect to give any corrections to the pilot.

[SansSuit 1]

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turbine-dz, gps, good pilots.. who needs spotting anyway!?

The spot is only important if you care where you land.

Peace,
-Dawson.
http://www.SansSuit.com
The Society for the Advancement of Naked Skydiving

[GLIDEANGLE 1]

I don't think that the decay in this skill is entirely due to neglect. I suspect that some turbine DZs deliberately under-train students about spotting so that the jumpers won't give the pilot any trouble on jump run. That plan probably works OK until the jumper goes someplace else to jump where jumpers are expected to spot.

The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others!

[TampaPete 54]

Here’s a previous thread discussing spotting and what happens when you go on the green light.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3934990;page=3;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;


Video of the incident.
Watch the shadow of the deploying canopy against the mountain ridge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiGdqPfztsc

[airtwardo 7]

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Here’s a previous thread discussing spotting and what happens when you go on the green light.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3934990;page=3;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;


Video of the incident.
Watch the shadow of the deploying canopy against the mountain ridge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiGdqPfztsc

Wow.

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[popsjumper 2]

That link is what we use every day, several times every day. You should have seen that during your spotting class for your A license...did you not?

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[popsjumper 2]

*gulp*

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[thrillstalker 0]

yep. i was being polite. i dont check the website before each jump, i check the board in the hanger.

"Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be."

[virgin-burner 1]

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Here’s a previous thread discussing spotting and what happens when you go on the green light.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3934990;page=3;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;


Video of the incident.
Watch the shadow of the deploying canopy against the mountain ridge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiGdqPfztsc

MOUNTAIN GRAVITY!

putting jumpers in jeopardy since 2000!

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=185591984803043&ref=ts

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

[TampaPete 54]

My reaction too.

The jumper in the video was very forthcoming with what happened. He’s in the thread. At our DZ everyone learns to spot. This thread reinforced checking the spot before you go.

[totter 2]

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given Mike is a USPA Director

This was back in, oh '97ish. Don't think he was a director then. Might of, but don't think so.

$99 to jump as many times as you could over the course of a weekend (Sat. - Sun.).
A GO AROUND meant lose of money.

[Scrumpot 1]

Get the winds Aloft yourself, HERE

Here's one with an actual result example, station identifier codes pre-populated (feel free to bookmark this, Delmarva jumpers ): HERE

coitus non circum - Moab Stone

[chuckakers 426]

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given Mike is a USPA Director

This was back in, oh '97ish. Don't think he was a director then. Might of, but don't think so.

$99 to jump as many times as you could over the course of a weekend (Sat. - Sun.).
A GO AROUND meant lose of money.

During a boogie till ya puke, the airplane pretty much runs constantly, so a go around is neither a loss nor a profit. It's just the loss of a fraction of a load for the paying customers.

Chuck Akers
D-10855
Houston, TX